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Luke Middleton
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NSW
V8 Limited

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Sunday, November 13, 2005 - 11:47 pm, by:  Luke Middleton (Spook) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Well a hell of a lot better than before anyway.
I'd had enough of the standard brakes on my V8 and managed to track to some TT callipers and discs(that just also happened to be slotted - bonus)
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If you are considering this as an upgrade for your V8- do it! do it now!
Jason Kingsmill
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Monday, November 14, 2005 - 06:56 am, by:  Jason Kingsmill (Jason_k) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'm gonna haveto do it...I'm also sick of the lack of braking power from the V8. :-(

How noticable is the upgrade?
Luke Middleton
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Monday, November 14, 2005 - 09:29 am, by:  Luke Middleton (Spook) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Jason,

you won't be disappointed and it's an easy job.
Good quality pads made a big contribution also.
There's a more progressive feel - where as before I found that you would really have to bury the foot to pull the car up. Light pressure on the pedal will now pull it up in what feels like half the time.
Stuart Morgan
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limited V8

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Monday, November 14, 2005 - 05:59 pm, by:  Stuart Morgan (Stumagoo) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

does it do anything to offset ect? Do you need any more room behind the rims? am guessing they are bigger pistons and rotors?
Jared Martin
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Soarer TT

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Monday, November 14, 2005 - 06:05 pm, by:  Jared Martin (Jared) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I heard it was better to upgrade to Supra TT brakes. Does anyone know if this is much harder to do?
Avin Luther
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Monday, November 14, 2005 - 06:22 pm, by:  Avin Luther (Lex_luther) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Stuart, I had to change my rims to clear teh bigger brakes, but as your profile suggests you have 19's its a good chance that they will clear them. They dont sit out much wider than the V8 ones

Jared: it would only really be harder on the wallet.. ... requires a minimal modifcation to the dust cover. Check Planet soarer for details
David Vaughan
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ACT
Soarer GT-L (4.0 V8) Lexus is300 (3.0 VVT-i 6)

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Monday, November 14, 2005 - 06:58 pm, by:  David Vaughan (Davidv) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Stuart, TT brakes fit in standard 16" rims so unless your offset is weird you will have no problem.

Jared, Supra TT brakes require larger wheels (as you have) and so are not a solution for V8 drivers with standard wheels. Celsior brakes are apparently another option but the TT brakes are doing a nice job on my car.
Stuart Morgan
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Monday, November 14, 2005 - 07:16 pm, by:  Stuart Morgan (Stumagoo) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks, I have read about the twin turbo supra upgrade, but did'nt realise the Soarer TT were more powerful as well. Sounds like the way to go for me, not that I have had any trouble stopping at all, but they do require a bit of force on the pedal. Will do braided lines whilst I'm at it!
Jeff Harper
Trader
NSW
UZZ32 Active V8

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Monday, November 14, 2005 - 07:45 pm, by:  Jeff Harper (Jeffh) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have a set of TT Soarer callipers going for $200.
Luke Middleton
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Monday, November 14, 2005 - 08:45 pm, by:  Luke Middleton (Spook) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

From memory, the TT callipers stick out a further 25mm. There's less clearance between the rim and caliper than before. As for the rotors, they don't stick out any further - mainly lager diameter

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Stuart,
having to use alot of force to stop was my main gripe with the standard brakes also. All fixed now.
Stuart Morgan
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Monday, November 14, 2005 - 09:14 pm, by:  Stuart Morgan (Stumagoo) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Well that's good to know then.... before I get too exited, I have about 15mm clearance between the inside of my rim spoke and where the caliper has that champher on it. Rims are a dish look and the spokes curve back from the centre, to the outer part of the rim to get the dish. Will have to measure from the disk to the inside of the rim where the caliper sits.... Did a search, and from what I can gather I need min of 68mm. Does that sound right? Am guessing the calipers would sit a little further out from the centre as of the wheel as well?
Stuart Morgan
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Monday, November 14, 2005 - 09:17 pm, by:  Stuart Morgan (Stumagoo) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

chamfer......
Benjamin Burgess
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Toyota Soarer GT-TL

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Monday, November 14, 2005 - 09:27 pm, by:  Benjamin Burgess (Jampac) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Jarad, you need not only larger wheels (assuming your talking about 4 pot supra brakes), ie min of 17" you also need a wheel with a design that can fit the very large caliper. You could use wheels with low offsets like +30 to fit over the calipers however in NSW its illegal to do this and can never be engineered unless you completely redesign the wheel hub assembly or atleast prove it works to an rta engineer. I had so much trouble of the last 2 weeks trying to find said wheels that I gave up and brought a set of supra 17" factory wheels that are designed to fit over the late model supra TT brakes. The early supra TT brakes pre 1995 are the same as the soarer TT brakes, very easy to find wheels that fit over them as long as there 16".
Luke Middleton
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Monday, November 14, 2005 - 10:31 pm, by:  Luke Middleton (Spook) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Tomorrow I'll take some measurements and let you know
Alan Carter
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Tuesday, November 15, 2005 - 10:50 am, by:  Alan Carter (Alky) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Luke, did you just replace the front brakes for TT's or did you do all four????
Luke Middleton
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Tuesday, November 15, 2005 - 04:20 pm, by:  Luke Middleton (Spook) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Alan,

I replaced fronts only.
Alan Carter
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Tuesday, November 15, 2005 - 07:36 pm, by:  Alan Carter (Alky) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks mate, that makes it a bit cheaper.
Blaine Hanson
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Tuesday, November 15, 2005 - 09:01 pm, by:  Blaine Hanson (Blaine) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

In my opinion, for those of you considering the upgrade to Supra TT big brakes you should upgrade both the front and rear brake calipers to keep the ABS ratio's the same. Stock we have 2 pot front, 1 pot rear calipers. The Supra upgrade goes to 4 pot front, 2 pot rear.
Blaine Hanson
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Tuesday, November 15, 2005 - 09:02 pm, by:  Blaine Hanson (Blaine) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I believe this is not an issue with the Soarer TT upgrade.
Luke Middleton
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Tuesday, November 15, 2005 - 09:10 pm, by:  Luke Middleton (Spook) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

OK - just measured it...
Looks like you'll need 40mm minimum from the disc out. My rims are 38mm offset.
A few more pics to give you an idea..
In the first pic it's a little deceiving but it lines up with around 38mm


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