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Simon Martin
TryHard
Queensland
1UZ MX73 Cressida 5spd

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Monday, April 06, 2009 - 08:22 pm, by:  Simon Martin (Commander) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

So I have a 1uz cressida with 300zx tt 4 pots on the front, and probably standard'ish brakes on the back.

Bled them all the other day, fluid hadn't been changed for what looked like years. Brakes felt nice and hard, as soon as you start the car they go spongey again. It still pulls fine, and they can lock up, but i also notice now the passenger side front disc is clean, but the driver side disc still ahs rust on it from sitting, which I assume means the caliper on that side isn't working... altho when i punch the breaks at speed it locks them up, evenly, i thought.

suggestions?
David Janiec
TryHard
WA
Soarer 4.0GT-L UZZ31

Posts: 171
Reg: 07-2005

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Monday, April 06, 2009 - 08:47 pm, by:  David Janiec (Davidj) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Probably stuck piston(s)?

Expose the pistons so you can see what is going on, press the pedal, both pistons should come out, if one doesn't - you have a stuck piston!

G-clamp the working piston and press the pedal, the stuck one should be worked out (eventually).

Get it out, clean it up and stick it back in. The little wire holding the rubber seal should go back in. While it's all apart you should grease up the sliders with some nice bearing grease.

There are more detailed instructions around than what I can conjure up!
Daniel Clarke
Goo Roo
NSW
TT 2.5L 6 cylinder

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Monday, April 06, 2009 - 09:01 pm, by:  Daniel Clarke (Dieseltrain) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Could also be a seized Slide Pin ? Try sliding the caliper on the slides.. Also check if the inside of the drivers side is still rusty ? if its pulling the caliper from one side, this can indicate a sticky slide pin ( i think its called ? ) .

Could also be the rear brakes providing the sponginess ?
Scott Wilkes
TryHard
Tasmania
92 TT Factory Manual

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Monday, April 06, 2009 - 09:42 pm, by:  Scott Wilkes (Scottywilkes) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

there 4 pot calipes, so they dont have slides. Now if he has standard rears they could be seized causing the problem.

It will always be stiff when the engine is not running as the engine isnt providing vaccum to the booster.

When you say spongy, how spongy? Does it eventually go rock hard towards the end of the stroke? Or does it go to the floor?
Dave Cazes
TryHard
sa
tt

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Tuesday, April 07, 2009 - 02:39 pm, by:  Dave Cazes (Cazman) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

you calipers are upside down
David Janiec
TryHard
WA
Soarer 4.0GT-L UZZ31

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Tuesday, April 07, 2009 - 05:16 pm, by:  David Janiec (Davidj) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Easy way to tell if they're upside down - the bleeder valves should always be on top.

Who knows how they'd get upside down during a bleed though
Simon Martin
TryHard
Queensland
1UZ MX73 Cressida 5spd

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Tuesday, April 07, 2009 - 10:16 pm, by:  Simon Martin (Commander) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

they're not upside down ya retard... haha

My rears seem fine. When i say spongey, nah it doesn't go to the floor, but you probably have to push the pedal half way for it to get nearly full pressure, probably a quarter before it really starts to brake?

I'm gettin them checked out tomorrow by a mate tho, at least he'll be able to tell me

Car hasn't been driven for at least a month and a half, been sitting around so...

Cheers fellas :-)
Dave Cazes
TryHard
sa
tt

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Wednesday, April 08, 2009 - 12:48 pm, by:  Dave Cazes (Cazman) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

brake fluid is hydroscopic. Especially dot 5 which you should never use on a car that sees the street

I would flush every bit of fluid out, every little scrap, the water gets absorbed into the bake fluid.

The upside down calipers was a joke.
Matthew Sharpe
Goo Roo
North Island
JZZ31

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Wednesday, April 08, 2009 - 01:55 pm, by:  Matthew Sharpe (Madmatt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Sounds like a servo/accumulator on the way out to me.
David Janiec
TryHard
WA
Soarer 4.0GT-L UZZ31

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Thursday, April 09, 2009 - 02:22 pm, by:  David Janiec (Davidj) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'm having a slightly similar problem myself - I can bleed the entire system confirm absolutely sure there is no air anywhere. The pedal is firm and there is no squishyness.

As soon as I turn to ACC or start the car, the pump primes up the nitrogen accumulator and it progressively makes the pedal softer and softer, then eventually its squishy again before I test drive. Brakes work well, just you have to use a firmer than usual foot to make them apply completely.

Maybe I need an accumulator regas?
Simon Martin
TryHard
Queensland
1UZ MX73 Cressida 5spd

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Saturday, April 18, 2009 - 09:31 am, by:  Simon Martin (Commander) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Actually, I got told my master cylinder is going, very slowly. He gave it a year before it would need replacing. If you push on the pedal slowly it will eventually go to the floor, when idle.

Horray for more $$ to spend on car hehe

There was a bit of air in the system still which was bled out, but yer. Thanks for suggestions :-)

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