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Gary Redman
TryHard
NSW
UZZ31

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Thursday, June 04, 2009 - 08:43 am, by:  Gary Redman (Gary) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The Klingon Brake Warning alarm came on today. It was not the low fluid level, but the other one. Does this mean the accumulater is on the way out? Brakes feel OK and I know the pads are good.
Nathan Hlad
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NT
soarer jzz30 tt

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Thursday, June 04, 2009 - 04:23 pm, by:  Nathan Hlad (Jackpot) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

hey gary same problem happened to me and i have full brake fluid too.
no idea man sorry
Ali Saeed
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WA
V8 Limited

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Thursday, June 04, 2009 - 05:52 pm, by:  Ali Saeed (Ali) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

have i tried unplugging and replugging the sensor?
Gary Redman
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Friday, June 05, 2009 - 11:31 am, by:  Gary Redman (Gary) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Where is the sensor?
Scott Wilkes
DieHard
Tasmania
92 TT Factory Manual

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Friday, June 05, 2009 - 12:03 pm, by:  Scott Wilkes (Scottywilkes) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

i get brake fluid low when i give the car a good boot, if i full throttle it then back off the low brake fluid warning message pops up.

No idea how this works as the reservoir is topped up
Ali Saeed
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Friday, June 05, 2009 - 04:57 pm, by:  Ali Saeed (Ali) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

well the plug can get loose. the sensor is inside the cap of the reservoir. its got that floating thing, which can get stuck too
Gary Redman
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Tuesday, June 09, 2009 - 12:52 pm, by:  Gary Redman (Gary) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

That sensor is for the fluid level. That is not the brake warning I am getting. Anyone else have any idea on how to diagnose a brake warning message and how to check the accumulator.
Scott Wilkes
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Tuesday, June 09, 2009 - 05:14 pm, by:  Scott Wilkes (Scottywilkes) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

i just bled my brakes through, and its dissapeared now, if your brake fluid has a high water content it may cause it to go off?

A good flush of the brake system and new brake fluid has solved it for me anyway
Gary Redman
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Wednesday, June 17, 2009 - 12:23 pm, by:  Gary Redman (Gary) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The Klingon Brake Warning is still coming on every time we drive the car. I have disconnected the battery but that didn't work. The warning stays on until you turn the engine off and restart it again, then it stays off. Don't really know how to test it anything from this point. I know it isn't the low fluid level because (a) the sensor is disconnected at the master cylinder and (b) the klingon translates differently for fluid level.
Anyone have any ideas on how to further diagnose this warning. The brakes feel and drive normal.
Blake Gloyn
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manawatu
soarer JZZ30 TT

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Wednesday, June 17, 2009 - 02:55 pm, by:  Blake Gloyn (Blakenz) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

are you getting any codes when you run diagnostics?
Dave Hart
Goo Roo
Waikato
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Thursday, June 18, 2009 - 07:28 am, by:  Dave Hart (Davyboy) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

If it's not a faulty hand brake off switch then it must be coming from your ABS/TRC system.
Dylan O'Connor
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Wednesday, July 22, 2009 - 09:32 am, by:  Dylan O'Connor (Twiqurky) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

How do you fix it cuz I have the same problem?
Gary Redman
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NSW
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Wednesday, July 22, 2009 - 12:26 pm, by:  Gary Redman (Gary) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hopefully it will be fixed tonight when I replace the accumulator
Gary Redman
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Thursday, July 23, 2009 - 10:00 am, by:  Gary Redman (Gary) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Fitted the new accumulator and all looks good. No alarms anymore.
Gary Redman
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UZZ31

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Tuesday, July 28, 2009 - 05:57 pm, by:  Gary Redman (Gary) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

OK, thought it was Ok because the alarm went away but it is not. The accumulator or pump thingy is still running all the time. This means either the pump is faulty or the system has an internal leak.
Either or both sound intimidating. Anyone had these parts out and can give me some tips?
Dave Hart
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Waikato
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Tuesday, July 28, 2009 - 06:36 pm, by:  Dave Hart (Davyboy) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Gary, if the pump is running all the time and the accumulator is a new fully charged unit then the fluid from the pump must be going somewhere; are you losing fluid or can you see a leak? There's a small rubber shute under the pump at the motor end so that any leak that passes back from the pump along the drive shaft can drain out and not get into the motor.
Also with the accumulator fully charged the pump should cut out on pressure so your pressure switch could be stuffed. If that's ok and the accumulator isn't at pressure but the pump is running continuously to make pressure then the pressure could be getting lost through the master cylinder. Is the brake pedal spongy? Did you introduce air into the system when the accumulator was changed?
Gary Redman
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Wednesday, July 29, 2009 - 09:20 am, by:  Gary Redman (Gary) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The pump was running all the time before I changed the accumulator and we thought the accumulator was the problem, which it obviously wasn't. So anything I did when changing it isn't the problem eg introducing air etc. It has never lost a drop of brake fluid in the past 10 years. It is as if the pump is making any pressure at all because when I turn the engine off, the pump continues to wind down for about 20-30 seconds and sounds like someone hitting the side of an oil tin with a spanner, but not as loud as that but same sound. Also when in the car you can hear the pump and accumulator running when ever the brake pedal is touched, something that was never evident before. This is a real mystery for me so all help is appreciated. I will post in wanted section and see if anyone has a pump for sale as i have to start somewhere
Dave Hart
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Waikato
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Wednesday, July 29, 2009 - 06:05 pm, by:  Dave Hart (Davyboy) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Maybe then the brake fluid isn't getting to make pressure but is circulating somewhere or the pump can't make enough pressure because it's rooted. So sometime in its life the brake fluid was really crap to cause wear.
I posted a description with photos a few years ago of what the pump insides looked like, do a search if you want as I've tried to find them on my computer but failed.

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