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Jeff Harper
Trader
NSW
UZZ32 Active V8

Posts: 696
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Monday, December 05, 2005 - 10:06 pm, by:  Jeff Harper (Jeffh) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

And some Maltech lines one day.
Emanuel Spinola
Moderator
NSW
JZZ30, UZZ32

Posts: 612
Reg: 07-2005

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Monday, December 05, 2005 - 10:27 pm, by:  Emanuel Spinola (Manny) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Wow... so much to read...




So what have we concluded and/or proven in cyberspace theory - is a calliper/rotor upgrade a good thing or not for Z30 Soarers in street and/or track use?
Simon Triantafillou
TryHard
NSW
Soarer Turbo

Posts: 303
Reg: 07-2005

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Monday, December 05, 2005 - 10:37 pm, by:  Simon Triantafillou (Soarer) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Soarer uses a 3 channel ABS setup from memory.
Supra uses 4 channel I think.

3 channel = separate front wheels + rear.
4 channel = all wheels monitored and operated individually.
Matthew Sharpe
TryHard
North Island
3.0 GT

Posts: 181
Reg: 10-2005

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Tuesday, December 06, 2005 - 06:27 am, by:  Matthew Sharpe (Madmatt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

How big a job to fit Supra ABS to a Soarer?
David Vaughan
DieHard
ACT
Soarer GT-L (4.0 V8) Lexus is300 (3.0 VVT-i 6)

Posts: 882
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Tuesday, December 06, 2005 - 07:13 am, by:  David Vaughan (Davidv) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

On a Z30 or Z32, Jeff's last list looks a good summary. Personal taste for me says tyres first pads second. If you have done the first three then you will get a lot more advantage out of step 4. For track use I defer to people who are using the car there but if I myself were planning regular track work I would definitely write bigger brighter better discs and calipers on my shopping list, and bigger wheels to fit them (and to carry wider tyres) in my case.

On a Z31 I agree with the established view of this forum that you pick step 4, even for street use, via a TT upgrade at least at the front. Tyres I always do first anyway
Peter Nitschke
JunkFilterer
South Australia
GT4.0 V8

Posts: 2630
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Wednesday, December 07, 2005 - 01:15 pm, by:  Peter Nitschke (Pen) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

One thing at least, any brake upgrade will never be a bad thing.

Unless improperly done.
Jeff Harper
Trader
NSW
UZZ32 Active V8

Posts: 774
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Friday, January 06, 2006 - 08:07 pm, by:  Jeff Harper (Jeffh) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

So David, how are your Cheescutter rotors and TT calipers improving your stopping?

Good to see you went the upgrade path, hope you put in some HOT pads.
David Vaughan
Goo Roo
ACT
Soarer GT-L (4.0 V8) Lexus is300 (3.0 VVT-i 6)

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Friday, January 06, 2006 - 08:37 pm, by:  David Vaughan (Davidv) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Unfortunately I can not answer that very well as yet Jeff. Mainly, I have driven the car very little since Neil changed the rotors before Christmas. I had TT calipers and standard TT rotors already. Also, I have not yet put in the black pads, planning to wear out the Toyota pads first.

When I picked the car up the brakes tended to shudder under pressure. I have been bedding in the old pads on the new rotors and will discover soon whether it is just a bedding problem or the discs need machining.

So, This will take three stages. First, make sure they are working properly, then see how they feel then, a few thousand kilometres later, try the fancy pads.

I am considering wider tyres but that depends how much more performance I seek to give the car, not yet decided, and no less on wearing out my existing tyres. This could take bloody months!
Dan McColl
DieHard
Victoria
UZZ-32 V8 Soarer #138

Posts: 558
Reg: 07-2005

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Saturday, January 07, 2006 - 02:33 am, by:  Dan McColl (Hoon) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hopefully you dont need to machine NEW rotors.
David Vaughan
Goo Roo
ACT
Soarer GT-L (4.0 V8) Lexus is300 (3.0 VVT-i 6)

Posts: 1184
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Saturday, January 07, 2006 - 10:21 am, by:  David Vaughan (Davidv) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

No, they had 5k on them when purchased. I drove yesterday and am not slamming the pedal yet but it seems to be getting smoother so it may be just the used pads with one set of rotors encountering another set of used rotors. I will discuss it with Neil on Monday.
Peter Nitschke
JunkFilterer
South Australia
GT4.0 V8

Posts: 2883
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Saturday, January 07, 2006 - 02:21 pm, by:  Peter Nitschke (Pen) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

When I had warped rotors, the shudder was more noticeable under light braking.
Shom Bhattacharjee
TryHard
VIC
TT

Posts: 259
Reg: 07-2005

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Saturday, January 07, 2006 - 03:53 pm, by:  Shom Bhattacharjee (Shombre) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'm sorry to hear about the shudder, David - I do hope it's just the initial disharmony between two surfaces hitherto unfamiliar with each other :-( I never had that problem, but I suppose in fairness I had the discs and pads changed at the same time. Hope it gets sorted.
David Vaughan
Goo Roo
ACT
Soarer GT-L (4.0 V8) Lexus is300 (3.0 VVT-i 6)

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Saturday, January 07, 2006 - 04:15 pm, by:  David Vaughan (Davidv) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'll talk to Neil on Monday and then I am driving to Sydney and back Monday-Tuesday so that should help sort out whether there is a problem or whether it is improving as I think it is.
David Vaughan
Goo Roo
ACT
Soarer GT-L (4.0 V8) Lexus is300 (3.0 VVT-i 6)

Posts: 1211
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Tuesday, January 10, 2006 - 05:25 pm, by:  David Vaughan (Davidv) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

As I thought might happen, the brakes appear to have settled down with a bit of exercise. I did not test them hard on the way back from Sydney as my aged mother may not have appreciated it but things are looking OK.
Jason Kingsmill
TryHard
NSW
UZZ31 Soarer V8

Posts: 426
Reg: 07-2005

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Tuesday, January 10, 2006 - 07:38 pm, by:  Jason Kingsmill (Jason_k) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Good to hear David.
I'm hoping to join the TT braked V8 club soon :-)
David Vaughan
Goo Roo
ACT
Soarer GT-L (4.0 V8) Lexus is300 (3.0 VVT-i 6)

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Tuesday, January 10, 2006 - 07:42 pm, by:  David Vaughan (Davidv) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have spare a set of TT rotors which I may sell but no spare calipers. Go for a complete kit.
Grant Gablish
Tinkerer
NSW
Soarer JZZ30 (L)

Posts: 23
Reg: 07-2005

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Wednesday, January 11, 2006 - 10:17 am, by:  Grant Gablish (Gabbo) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Good value ones here Jason.

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4601914812&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd =1

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