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Jol Alexander
DieHard
Vic
UZZ31 V8 (no mods)
Posts: 638
Reg: 07-2009
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Sooooo
I was backing out of the drive way last night and she went BONG!!!!
Turned it off or back on again... she does her check all good. Go to drive off. BONG!!
Checked all cables and fuses... looks good.
The hand brake light comes on, the TRC (disabled) light comes on and the dash alternates between ABS and Brake System (jap error code)
I looked at the brake fluid level.. seems ok.
Any advise would be good here.. cheers
Jol |
Jol Alexander
DieHard
Vic
UZZ31 V8 (no mods)
Posts: 639
Reg: 07-2009
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Oh of note: I have filled the brake fluid, it was actually pretty low. Brakes are much stiffer now (Good for my driving style)
If i pump the brakes I can get it to BONG as well, if I don't pump it I only get the initial start up bong.
Fuse: Is there any chance there is a fuse can control all these functions (kick panel?)
If i unplug the fluid level sensor I get no additional or less error messages? Is it only TT's that get a low brake fluid level? |
Peter Nitschke
Junk Filterer
South Australia
UZZ30 UZZ31
Posts: 11190
Reg: 11-2004
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Does it have TRC? |
Jol Alexander
DieHard
Vic
UZZ31 V8 (no mods)
Posts: 640
Reg: 07-2009
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Are you asking, is my 31 fitted with TRC? Then yes.
If you are asking have i broken traction to see if the TRC is functional (since this issue) then no i haven't. |
Peter Nitschke
Junk Filterer
South Australia
UZZ30 UZZ31
Posts: 11191
Reg: 11-2004
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Just wondering if you might have gotten some air into the system when the fluid was low. Might be worth bleeding the TRC unit, but be careful, it's high pressure, Search for suggestions how best to do it. |
Jol Alexander
DieHard
Vic
UZZ31 V8 (no mods)
Posts: 641
Reg: 07-2009
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Would that cause all four errors to pop up?
Yeah bleeding the brakes looks a bit out side of my skill set 
No single fuse can make these errors? |
Ali Saeed
Goo Roo
WA
V8 Limited
Posts: 1591
Reg: 09-2007
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yes air in the system can cause all of these errors to pop up. |
Jol Alexander
DieHard
Vic
UZZ31 V8 (no mods)
Posts: 642
Reg: 07-2009
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update: This morning i made a call to a local guy to bleed my brakes. Pulled out of my drive way and got a Double bong and all the other lights.
Pumped the brakes a few times and all the error went away.
We is back in the green!! woot.
I am convinced there must have ben an air bubble thats now worked its way out of the system.
I could only find DOT4 - is this ok to use even though the soarer says it needs DOT3 ? |
Nathan Hlad
TryHard
NT
JZZ30 TT
Posts: 483
Reg: 09-2008
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no jol dont use dot4.
use dot3 like the soarer says. |
Jol Alexander
DieHard
Vic
UZZ31 V8 (no mods)
Posts: 643
Reg: 07-2009
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Howdy yall.
From what I can see Dot4 is the same as dot3 except a higher boiling point
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DOT_4
Am I missing something? |
Nathan Hlad
TryHard
NT
JZZ30 TT
Posts: 485
Reg: 09-2008
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you get dot3 brake fluid from toyota parts jol. |
Peter Nitschke
Junk Filterer
South Australia
UZZ30 UZZ31
Posts: 11197
Reg: 11-2004
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I have been running Dot 4 for quite a few years now with no problems. The only issue that I have read about, is that apparently refurbished TRC accumulators have a seal that doesn't like Dot 4. |
Nathan Hlad
TryHard
NT
JZZ30 TT
Posts: 489
Reg: 09-2008
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yeah peter that right i read a thread about brake accumulators that said dot3 is safer than dot4.
my bad.... lol |
Damian Ware
Goo Roo
Victoria
UZZ32
Posts: 1257
Reg: 10-2005
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Peter Nitschke wrote on Sunday, January 03, 2010 - 12:19 am:The only issue that I have read about, is that apparently refurbished TRC accumulators have a seal that doesn't like Dot 4.
Thats news to me where did you here that.
I have been running Castrol Super Response DOT 4 which is actually a DOT 5.1 fluid and claims to be one of the few DOT 5.1 fluids that is compatable with DOT 3 and DOT 4.
I have the TRC brake unit with one of Peter Taplins rebuilt accumulators.
No problems as of yet and mine is one of the first he did. |
Peter Nitschke
Junk Filterer
South Australia
UZZ30 UZZ31
Posts: 11199
Reg: 11-2004
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I heard it right here!
http://soarercentral.com/cgi-bin/sc-forum/show.cgi?tpc=83418&post=367972#POST367972 |
Damian Ware
Goo Roo
Victoria
UZZ32
Posts: 1258
Reg: 10-2005
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No worries.
Well at this point in both my cars which both have rebuilt accumlators are running CSR DOT 4 and CSR DOT 4 is DOT 3 and DOT 4 compatible. This has not caused any issues that I am aware of. |
Jol Alexander
DieHard
Vic
UZZ31 V8 (no mods)
Posts: 644
Reg: 07-2009
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Hmm.. i seem to be loosing brake fluid onto the drive way.
IS there some kind of overflow tube or something? |
Peter Nitschke
Junk Filterer
South Australia
UZZ30 UZZ31
Posts: 11200
Reg: 11-2004
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Not really, and no need for it, the brake system should be pretty much closed to reduce moisture absorption from the atmosphere.
Can you find the leak based on where it's dripping to the ground? |
Jol Alexander
DieHard
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UZZ31 V8 (no mods)
Posts: 645
Reg: 07-2009
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The top of the resivior has fluid coming out of it i think. The drip appears to be inline with the res/accumulator.
I really did over fill it earlier .. but maybe there is a leak somewhere in the system. |
Jol Alexander
DieHard
Vic
UZZ31 V8 (no mods)
Posts: 646
Reg: 07-2009
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Ok now it's trippy. Went out and checked it. It's dripping from pretty much under the drivers seat.
It isn't coming from the exhaust but from a lip in the underspray sealant. I'll be dammed if i know why? Any chance brake lines run along that way? |
Dave Hart
Goo Roo
Waikato
UZZ32
Posts: 1493
Reg: 08-2005
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Jol, I'm not saying this is the case but there's a drain tube under the TRC pump. This is more a tell-tale that shows the seal between the pump and motor drive shaft is u/s. |
Jol Alexander
DieHard
Vic
UZZ31 V8 (no mods)
Posts: 647
Reg: 07-2009
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cheers, Whats u/s mean? |
Peter Williams
Tinkerer
Victoria
V8
Posts: 54
Reg: 01-2009
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u/s polite version = un-serviceable
u/s not so polite = up (the) sh!t |
Jol Alexander
DieHard
Vic
UZZ31 V8 (no mods)
Posts: 648
Reg: 07-2009
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Cheers thanks for that.
I believe she has stopped leaking now and I am just hoping it was some kinda overflow. |
Peter Nitschke
Junk Filterer
South Australia
UZZ30 UZZ31
Posts: 11208
Reg: 11-2004
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Maybe do a full flush to make sure there isn't any air lurking? |
Jol Alexander
DieHard
Vic
UZZ31 V8 (no mods)
Posts: 692
Reg: 07-2009
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issues back again .. meh.. .. i can;'t afford this BS right now.. Any easy fix for the above or do I have to replace the lot? |
Dave Hart
Goo Roo
Waikato
UZZ32
Posts: 1546
Reg: 08-2005
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Take a day off and drive down to see Peter Taplin in Carrum Downs. |
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