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Brian Coignet
Tinkerer
Victoria
Toyota Soarer TT

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Wednesday, June 02, 2010 - 08:43 am, by:  Brian Coignet (Brizal) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hey Guys and Girls, I was just wondering what differences people have noticed with using Bendix pads and Lucas/TRW pads. There around the same price, so any input would be appreciated. :-)
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Damian Ware
Goo Roo
Victoria
UZZ32

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Wednesday, June 02, 2010 - 11:40 am, by:  Damian Ware (Frozenpod) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Bendix compared with Lucas equals Bendix being poor quality and value.

Bendix have lower temp range, less stopping power, they eat rotors, pads probably last a little longer depends on how you drive and they have a little less dust.
Matthew Sharpe
Goo Roo
North Island
JZZ31

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Thursday, June 03, 2010 - 06:54 am, by:  Matthew Sharpe (Madmatt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Agreed, Lucas do seem to be the way to go for a street car, never heard anyone say anything bad about them other than the dust, which is easy enough to clean off unless you have complex rims.
Walter Gillmore
DieHard
QLD
TT JZZ30

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Friday, June 18, 2010 - 12:25 pm, by:  Walter Gillmore (Cl33pa) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

ive finally found the right pads for the front of my TT it seems as tho the pads for soarers, db1209 etc weren't right for my car. i had to go and search through the lucas catalouge, after much searching it seems that only lucas make the pads i needed for my fronts. the part number was 1184 and was under lexus GS300. has anyone else come across this or is it just my 95 TT?? the rears were the standard 1346 i think it was.
Daniel Lee
Goo Roo
Victoria
V35

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Friday, June 18, 2010 - 08:22 pm, by:  Daniel Lee (Son_gokou) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Last time i bought the lucas TRW pads for the front and the part number is DB1395 / GDB3235.
Walter Gillmore
DieHard
QLD
TT JZZ30

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Friday, June 18, 2010 - 10:29 pm, by:  Walter Gillmore (Cl33pa) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

yeah not with my soarer. the db1395 fronts are too small for my calipers. the 1396 rears are the right ones tho. there is no part number for bendix pads for my fronts. only lucas GDB1184 thats it. i had to go through pretty much both bendix and lucas catalouges to find one that was the right shape. then found out it was for a 92 gs300. strange i thought.
Murray Lund
TryHard
NSW
V8

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Saturday, June 19, 2010 - 07:25 am, by:  Murray Lund (Murray) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

yeah my front TT pads are DB1395 also.
David Grab
Goo Roo
SA
T78

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Sunday, December 12, 2010 - 03:27 am, by:  David Grab (Blastedbyasoarer) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

If people want TRW Lucas pad performance but without the dust then get some QFM pads, think they are based in QLD. Basically a smidgen better than TRW Lucas but a lot less brake dust.
Hakan Pasha
TryHard
Victoria
JZZ30

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Sunday, December 12, 2010 - 07:51 am, by:  Hakan Pasha (Hakanpasha) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


David Grab wrote on Sunday, December 12, 2010 - 03:27 am:

If people want TRW Lucas pad performance but without the dust then get some QFM pads, think they are based in QLD. Basically a smidgen better than TRW Lucas but a lot less brake dust.



Happen to know the relevant part numbers?
Trent Linnell
TryHard
Victoria
V8

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Sunday, December 12, 2010 - 08:50 pm, by:  Trent Linnell (Tlinnell) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yeah I bought some TRW pads for my TT 2 Pot Calipers and they were DB1395.

I paid $70 for a paid from Better Brakes in Bayswater Victoria.
Aaron deVisser
Tinkerer
South Australia
TT

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Monday, December 13, 2010 - 12:29 am, by:  Aaron deVisser (Bigdiv) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Mine were DB1395 as well, got them from abs for $88
Damian Ware
Goo Roo
Victoria
UZZ32

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Monday, December 13, 2010 - 08:09 am, by:  Damian Ware (Frozenpod) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


David Grab wrote on Sunday, December 12, 2010 - 03:27 am:

QFM pads, think they are based in QLD. Basically a smidgen better than TRW Lucas but a lot less brake dust.




Which QFM pad are you reffering too they have quite a range of compounds from OEM replacements to race pads.
Oki Zoubari
Tinkerer
south australia
uzz32

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Wednesday, December 15, 2010 - 11:45 pm, by:  Oki Zoubari (Oki) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

what is the lucas part number for the front and rear for a uzz32.

on brakes.com.au, they list the front as GDB1142 and rear as GDB1257 for the uzz32.

anyone confirm.
Sebastian Grant
Goo Roo
nsw
soarer TT

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Friday, January 21, 2011 - 09:39 pm, by:  Sebastian Grant (Saabg) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I installed my Lucas TRW pads the other day and to say I'm very impressed would be an understatement. I can't believe how much better than stock. The only negative thing I can say about them is that the pads are so thick that it makes them a little difficult to put on. Other than that, this is probably the best value for money upgrade you can make to our cars.
Aaron deVisser
TryHard
South Australia
TT

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Friday, January 21, 2011 - 10:02 pm, by:  Aaron deVisser (Bigdiv) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Sh!t load of dust though... thats the only quarrel i have with them.
Damian Ware
Goo Roo
Victoria
UZZ32

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Saturday, January 22, 2011 - 12:25 am, by:  Damian Ware (Frozenpod) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Aaron, other manufactures which use the lucas pads as their OEM installed pads don't think the dust is beyond reasonable.

Sure TRW Lucas pads do have more dust than toyota pads but most aftermarket pads (even those which didn't perform as well) have similar if not more dust.

The best part with the TRW Lucas pads is the dust is very easily removed much easier to remove than what I have experienced with other pads.

It aint that bad and the braking performance is exceptional for a pad that works from cold.
Peter Nitschke
Junk Filterer
South Australia
UZZ30 UZZ31

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Sunday, January 23, 2011 - 03:53 pm, by:  Peter Nitschke (Pen) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It amazes me that with all the recommendations from people that have tried these pads, some others still keep recommending OEM pads.
Sebastian Grant
Goo Roo
nsw
soarer TT

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Sunday, January 23, 2011 - 05:16 pm, by:  Sebastian Grant (Saabg) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'll never, ever go back to oem. One of the very few oem parts I wouldn't recommend.
Damian Ware
Goo Roo
Victoria
UZZ32

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Monday, January 24, 2011 - 09:04 am, by:  Damian Ware (Frozenpod) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

My view exactly Sebastian, most Toyota OEM parts are the best of the best but their brake pads are complete rubbish.

To think that many other OEM pads ie holden, nissan are a huge step up on toyota pads just shows how poor the toyota pads really are.

I recently installed Lucas pads in the pulsar thus far (4000kms) the dust appears to be slightly lower than with the OEM nissan pads.
Matthew Sharpe
Goo Roo
North Island
JZZ31

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Wednesday, January 26, 2011 - 06:24 am, by:  Matthew Sharpe (Madmatt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I don't think OEM pads are complete rubbish, they just don't bite well cold, and don't bite well hot - when they are at a normal operating temp, they are just fine. But yeah, there are loads better pads available at a similar price.
Peter Nitschke
Junk Filterer
South Australia
UZZ30 UZZ31

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Wednesday, January 26, 2011 - 01:59 pm, by:  Peter Nitschke (Pen) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

OEM pads work quite well for day to day driving. No noise, no dust, and most stops are gentle from up to 60kph.

It's when you put 1600kg through it's paces that they fail.
Damian Ware
Goo Roo
Victoria
UZZ32

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Wednesday, January 26, 2011 - 09:31 pm, by:  Damian Ware (Frozenpod) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Matthew, Toyota OEM pads are very poor in performance, even with compared with other OEM pads.
Matthew Sharpe
Goo Roo
North Island
JZZ31

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Thursday, January 27, 2011 - 06:14 am, by:  Matthew Sharpe (Madmatt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Very true, but like Peter said, they do excel in some areas which are important to Joe Public. No, I wouldn't use them either as I hate the feel they give and would rather stop well and have to clean a bit of dust off the wheels every weekend - but I still wouldn't call them complete rubbish.
Damian Ware
Goo Roo
Victoria
UZZ32

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Thursday, January 27, 2011 - 08:08 am, by:  Damian Ware (Frozenpod) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Matthew Sharpe wrote on Thursday, January 27, 2011 - 06:14 am:

Very true, but like Peter said, they do excel in some areas which are important to Joe Public. No, I wouldn't use them either as I hate the feel they give and would rather stop well and have to clean a bit of dust off the wheels every weekend - but I still wouldn't call them complete rubbish.




So other OEM pads such as OEM Holden, OEM Nissan OEM Merc, OEM Volvo pads don't meet Joe Public requirements?
Matthew Sharpe
Goo Roo
North Island
JZZ31

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Friday, January 28, 2011 - 05:33 am, by:  Matthew Sharpe (Madmatt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Depends on what you want from your brake pads. OEM Nissan pads on my wifes old car were quite good - nice feel, good when cold - but man those mofo's were dusty as hell - horrible sticky dust that took hard scrubbing to get off. Wouldn't put me off buying them again because they felt like good, safe pads - but it would be something a customer who had bought a new Nissan might complain about. Perhaps Toyota sacrificed feel and temperature performance for quiet, dust free pads that your average no-nothing, care-nothing driver wouldn't bring back to the dealer complaining they were messing up his/her rims, or sqealing at the traffic lights.
Damian Ware
Goo Roo
Victoria
UZZ32

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Friday, January 28, 2011 - 08:18 am, by:  Damian Ware (Frozenpod) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

If toyota pads get hot they have piles of dust just as much if not more than Lucas pads.

Other OEM pads are also noise free again I don't think this is a concern.
Peter Nitschke
Junk Filterer
South Australia
UZZ30 UZZ31

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Friday, February 04, 2011 - 09:17 am, by:  Peter Nitschke (Pen) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I think we all agree that the OEM pads aren't terrific. Whether they are the worst pads on the market - well, who cares?

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