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Dave Storrie
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Monday, December 19, 2005 - 04:09 pm, by:  Dave Storrie (Casp3r) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi guys just in the process of removing my rear brake discs to take down and get machined, and I'm stuck.

I've removed the calipers and removed the big muthu centre nut and all that but it still won't slide off, just want to find out if there is anything else holding the disc on before i get out the hammer.

Cheers!
Peter Nitschke
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Monday, December 19, 2005 - 04:15 pm, by:  Peter Nitschke (Pen) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Release the handbrake?
Peter Nitschke
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Monday, December 19, 2005 - 04:15 pm, by:  Peter Nitschke (Pen) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

No need to remove any nuts at all. Just the wheel. The rotor isn't actually part of the hub.
James Johnson
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Monday, December 19, 2005 - 04:38 pm, by:  James Johnson (Jamesy) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

go get some long sized M8 bolts.

these should be two holes in the rotor for the M8 bolts to go in!

then just do them up and it will all come off so easy!!
Dave Storrie
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Monday, December 19, 2005 - 04:49 pm, by:  Dave Storrie (Casp3r) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

well, too late now :P

But ive removed all that, and i still can't get the rotor off. I think ive found the squeaking though, there is a heap of movement in the passengers rear hub, i can move the rotor in and out and wriggle it and stuff..that aint normal now is it?

I should have got the handbook for the soarer before doin this, but i figured it should be relatively simple...

So m8 bolts righto, and they go into that hole with the rubber cover yeah? theres one on each rotor. I'll head down the mitre 10 now. Thanks!
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Monday, December 19, 2005 - 05:01 pm, by:  Peter Nitschke (Pen) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Should be 2 bolt holes on each rotor. Do the bolts up evenly to gently force the rotor off.

The rubber bung is for handbrake adjustment.
Dave Storrie
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Monday, December 19, 2005 - 05:35 pm, by:  Dave Storrie (Casp3r) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ah i see how it's done now!

Thanks guys. No doubt you'll see me on here again asking some more basic questions :P
Damien Barnes
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Wednesday, March 29, 2006 - 12:55 am, by:  Damien Barnes (Barned01) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

My experience with removing rear brake discs.
I was winding in m8 bolts for quite a while and the damn disc would still not let go.
Worked out that that little rubber cup in the disc face housed a hole behind it to get to the brake shoes cheers to you guys for this as i was cussing quite a bit and it took me a while still to find what i was looking for.
So the actual method i finally took which allowed me to get the disc off in under 2 minutes is as such:
rotate the disc so the little rubber grommet is facing the bottom then remove the grommet. If you peer through with some light you should see a vertical "bolt" with teeth on it.
If you use a flat head screw driver wind the "bolt" downwards and this will close the handbrake shoes.
next get 2 m8 bolts and place it in the 2 holes on the disc.
rotate each one by hand until it touches the mounting face for the disc.
then grab a ratchet and rotate each bolt by 1/2 a turn.
By 2 full revolutions the disc should be free and fall into your hands.

Things to note.
If you force the disc off the retainer spring clips for the handbrake shoes will stretch and will foul on the back of the wheel studs.
to fix this i grabbed a pair of angled needle nosed pliers and placed it in between the back of the hub and the retainer plate. then i grabbed a g clam and placed it over the hub and the back of the retainer pin.
with the pliers securely in place this stopped the pin from moving forwards, so it was simply a matter of winding in the g clamp to bend the pin back into shape again. remove the g clamp and pliers and rotate the assembly to make sure the hub and wheel studs don't foul on it and all should be alright again.

Now to assemble.....does anyone know how to adjust the handbrake shoes back to what they should be? :-)


pictures to come before i reassemble everything
Peter Nitschke
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Wednesday, March 29, 2006 - 01:46 am, by:  Peter Nitschke (Pen) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

With the car properly and safely jacked and the handbrake OFF, you should be able to turn the hub/disk. At this point, the handbrake isn't grabbing the inside of the drum - else it wouldn't be able to turn.

Then use the m-8 bolts if a gentle tap from a hammer and block of wood doesn't work.

Unless the handbrake has somehow carved a groove inside the drum, there shouldn't be anything for the brake shoes to catch on as the drum should be smooth right to the edge.

I did mine last week.
Damien Barnes
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Wednesday, March 29, 2006 - 09:49 am, by:  Damien Barnes (Barned01) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

yeah i would say my rotors had issues then as they definately grabbed and weren't coming in a hurry. there was a definite grove inside the rotor when i took it off.
I also took it down to get them machined and they were dead on 15mm so the rotors were pretty bungered.
New ones coming to me tomorrow.
Damien Barnes
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Wednesday, March 29, 2006 - 10:44 am, by:  Damien Barnes (Barned01) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

but now that i have had to adjust the handbrake shoes, do you know the method to readjust them again?
Peter Nitschke
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Wednesday, March 29, 2006 - 02:07 pm, by:  Peter Nitschke (Pen) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Suggest adjust them at the wheel the same way you loosened them off. Have the handbrake off and adjust until they start to touch the drum then back it off a tad. Should work. When finished, you probably want about 3 clicks of the handbrake lever from off to on.
Justin Hughes
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Wednesday, March 29, 2006 - 03:26 pm, by:  Justin Hughes (Juzza) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Does adjusting one side pull both shoes (L+Rhs) or do you have to adjust each side independently ?
Peter Nitschke
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Wednesday, March 29, 2006 - 03:28 pm, by:  Peter Nitschke (Pen) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

No idea, I didn't have to adjust mine. I presume you mean both shoes on the one wheel? At a guess, there is only one mechanism for both shoes, so I would guess the answer is yes.

But you need to do each wheel independently :-)
Don Bagnall
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Wednesday, March 29, 2006 - 03:54 pm, by:  Don Bagnall (Baggs) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

One adjuster per side Juzza.

As in: The Star-wheel adjuster on the LH rear adjusts BOTH handbrake shoes on the LH rear.
And the RH rear adjusts BOTH handbrake shoes on the RH rear.

Justin Hughes
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Wednesday, March 29, 2006 - 04:05 pm, by:  Justin Hughes (Juzza) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

OK - Cheers
Damien Barnes
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Wednesday, March 29, 2006 - 10:48 pm, by:  Damien Barnes (Barned01) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

ok as i picked up the rotors today they said to do them until you can *JUST* feel them coming into contact on the inside of the rotor.
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Thursday, March 30, 2006 - 09:14 am, by:  Damien Barnes (Barned01) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

well that sucked. It didn't clamp enough when i applied the hand brake.
Oh well weekend job now.
At least the car can be driven now with new rotors and pads.

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