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Josh Halse
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Thursday, May 31, 2012 - 02:23 am, by:  Josh Halse (Sir_400) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

So tax time is coming up and I have a few things I would like to upgrade. I would like to get slotted brakes all round and have found a set of rears for $340 on ebay. But it states that it is for a 92-00 sc400 (also for ls400's and supras and gs300s)? My soarer is 1991, so will they fit for it or not?

Also any other suggestions for brakes would be great thanks :-)
Ali Saeed
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Thursday, May 31, 2012 - 12:00 pm, by:  Ali Saeed (Ali) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

my suggestion is to get a set of TT brakes. they have bigger rotors and better calipers.
Aaron Casey
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Thursday, May 31, 2012 - 12:58 pm, by:  Aaron Casey (Blownminiturbo) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

As ali said. An upgrade to tt brakes front and rear with decent discs and pads is a significant upgrade. Totally changed my brothers car under braking. Try find some rda discs i purchased supra front 323mm from ebay for 270, 340 seems a bit over inflated for a rear set unless dba slotted
Ray Austin
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Thursday, May 31, 2012 - 01:11 pm, by:  Ray Austin (Rayala) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'd be able to supply you with the V8 slotted rotors for $500 all up for front and rear.

If you wanted to upgrade to the TT brakes, I could do the front for $160/pair and the rear at $230/pair.

It's no issue to freight them down to you, so let me know if you are interested and I will get it organized through work.
Mike Beck
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Thursday, May 31, 2012 - 06:01 pm, by:  Mike Beck (Gold_40gt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

As impressive bigger brakes are to look at, the question is, do you really need them?

Unless your seeing track days often and need the bigger rotors to aid in the dissipation of heat then there really not much to be gain in normal road use...

I recall the distance from the hub center to caliper position is the same between the V8 and TT brakes (and the pads are the same size) so the braking force is the the same...

In saying that, purely for looks I did the front brakes in my last Soarer, 'upgrading' to the 315mm 4 pot LS400 brake rotors and calipers... did it make a difference in braking? I'm not so sure, I like to think it did but it felt much the same as the stock brakes the more I thought about it at the time.

I think a decent set of pads could be the way to go first, you might find the stopping 'bite' you desire with those.
Christian Somerville
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Thursday, May 31, 2012 - 06:08 pm, by:  Christian Somerville (Csomers) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Don't bother slotting or drilling unless its for track.
It just reduces the rotors overall durability, especially drilling.
A nice set of TT brakes with decent pads will bite great, if you want even bigger you can go Supra or LS400 brakes.
Josh Halse
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Thursday, May 31, 2012 - 10:05 pm, by:  Josh Halse (Sir_400) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The car has only a few power modifications, don't need anything major but would like to upgrade brakes. When people say 'upgrade to tt or supra brakes' do you just mean get the rotors and they fit straight on? or is it everything like master cylinder and all that? Thanks.
Ali Saeed
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Thursday, May 31, 2012 - 11:48 pm, by:  Ali Saeed (Ali) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Supra brakes are 4 pots and have bigger rotors (323mm). they require 17inch wheels and the wheel design must clear the brakes.

Soarer TT brakes on the other hand have the same caliper but a different caliper mount. the rotors are 296mm compared to the v8s 275mm. they will need 16 inch wheels

No master cylinder required, you can use the stock one
Josh Halse
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Thursday, May 31, 2012 - 11:55 pm, by:  Josh Halse (Sir_400) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have 17" drift teks with 34+ offset, They aren't restrictive at all for potential large discs. So I will look into getting supra brakes. So it's an easy swap to supra brakes then? Thanks for the info!
Ali Saeed
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Friday, June 01, 2012 - 01:19 am, by:  Ali Saeed (Ali) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Supra brakes bolt on. BUT they are massive so you will see if they will clear the wheel face
Josh Halse
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Friday, June 01, 2012 - 01:28 am, by:  Josh Halse (Sir_400) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'm quite positive that my wheels will enable me to have the supra brakes in. Thanks for the info everyone :-)
Ali Saeed
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Friday, June 01, 2012 - 12:13 pm, by:  Ali Saeed (Ali) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

you need approximately 65mm of clearance between the rotor face and the rim
Christian Somerville
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Friday, June 01, 2012 - 03:27 pm, by:  Christian Somerville (Csomers) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yeah you'll be safe with +30 offset, but +34 is risky, but I know Drifteks are more convex than concave so could fit. My +35 18s didn't fit over the front Supra brakes, but they are dished so was probably more or less the reason.
Josh Halse
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Friday, June 01, 2012 - 03:47 pm, by:  Josh Halse (Sir_400) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yeah these are really convex, the spokes go outwards past the lip then right at the end they go into the lip, so I assume they will be fine. I'll get advice from a professional first though.
Dan McColl
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Friday, June 01, 2012 - 04:48 pm, by:  Dan McColl (Hoon) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It's nothing to do with offset. My +45 18's fit over my supra brakes easily. Stock Supra wheels are +50. It's the clearance from the spokes to the disk that matters, and this will vary with the design of the wheel.

Drifteks should be fine.
Mike Beck
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Friday, June 01, 2012 - 06:46 pm, by:  Mike Beck (Gold_40gt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Dan McColl wrote on Friday, June 01, 2012 - 04:48 pm:

It's the clearance from the spokes to the disk that matters, and this will vary with the design of the wheel.




Word.
Christian Somerville
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Friday, June 01, 2012 - 07:06 pm, by:  Christian Somerville (Csomers) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Mike Beck wrote on Friday, June 01, 2012 - 06:46 pm:




werd.
Good call Dan, my mistake.
Aaron Casey
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Friday, June 01, 2012 - 11:35 pm, by:  Aaron Casey (Blownminiturbo) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

All depends on how much money he wants to spend. Possibly best value for money is either good condition tt ones or tt rear and celsior 4 pot fronts. Supra 4/2 conversion is almost 3 times that.
Decent rotors and pads on tt pull up my car ok at the end of wakefield straight from 200 wanting to lock wheels up coming into the corner. (didnt know braking point lol) But they were only easy laps so i dont know how they would hold up over a few hard laps. V8 ones that were on the racecar im building and my brothers uzz31 felt like i was going to put my foot through the floor trying to pull up. I upgraded his to tt with rda slotted rotors and decent pads and pulls up like a normal car now haha
Havent tested my front wilwoods yet so no information on how they go from personal experience yet.
Josh Halse
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Tuesday, June 19, 2012 - 01:44 pm, by:  Josh Halse (Sir_400) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Well yeah money really isn't an issue. My tax return this year is going to be really big roughly 6-7k and I'm getting some more exhaust work done (500 bucks), tint (250), a panel fixed (400). And i'm budgeting 3k to spend on my car so yeah I have a bit to spare, Most likely leaning towards supra brake upgrade.

Thanks for the info though :-)
Josh Halse
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Tuesday, June 19, 2012 - 01:51 pm, by:  Josh Halse (Sir_400) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Scratch that comment above LOL. I was just looking at how much supra brake upgrades are and it's over 2k haha. I heard it was a lot cheaper than that but must have heard incorrectly. Maybe I will look into just TT brake upgrade. Does anyone know rough price for an entire set? Thanks.
James Buchan
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Tuesday, June 19, 2012 - 01:54 pm, by:  James Buchan (Jrbuch) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I put Supra four pistons on my V8... huge upgrade in terms of braking power mate.

Now that I've got a vvti turbo too, i'll be transferring them onto my vvti, and the vvti brakes onto my V8, as the vvti is faster.
Josh Halse
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Tuesday, June 19, 2012 - 04:09 pm, by:  Josh Halse (Sir_400) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yeah I thought they would be but not really worth it if it's going to be over 2k when I'm not doing track days, and all I've got is BFI, extractors and full duel exhaust all the way through. It's decent power but not enough to justify having brakes that set me back over 2k. I'd rather put that into halfway getting a small pound blower. But I wouldn't mind spending up to maybe 1k on a set of good brakes at the moment though. Wish I had the VVti but i've already put so much work into cosmetically into my soarer and it would be a shame if it all goes to waste haha.
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Tuesday, June 19, 2012 - 05:06 pm, by:  James Buchan (Jrbuch) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Mine didn't cost me anywhere near 2k fwiw... I shopped around and picked the whole lot up for $950... And they were only 1000k's old


That's sorta how I felt about my v8. But then I came across a good vvti and thought why not.

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