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Peter Brady
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Queensland
V8

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Tuesday, March 31, 2015 - 09:18 pm, by:  Peter Brady (Peterb) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The other day my 95 V8 Soarer began coming up with warning lights and alarm for the ABS, TRC which would not switch on or off and the handbrake light. I stopped the car and switched everything off which worked when the same thing happened once after hard braking through town before I replaced the accumulator but unfortunately it had no effect. I limped home down a back way with alarms going and after a few miles the boost went on the brakes.After a very slow next few miles I stopped at a set of lights and everything came right again, sadly a few miles more and the alarms came on again and just before home the boost went again. I could not hear the pump working at all like it does for the first few seconds when I start it having been sitting for over a week and like it did before we replaced the accumulator continuously so I presume the pump is working OK, the brake fluid is still clean and fully topped up so I do not think it is air in the system or a leak. I read through all the threads in this section and there was a lady who suffered what seemed like exactly the same problems a few years ago and having replaced just about every part in the system finally solved the problem by replacing the DVS switch-sensor. Could anyone confirm that this is the most likely problem and fix and is this switch still available.
Peter
Tom Richards
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nsw
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Wednesday, April 01, 2015 - 04:25 pm, by:  Tom Richards (Tomr) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

pump the brakes with the ignition on and confirm the accum pump comes on. From memory the dvs switch is at the back of the master cylinder and gives a 51 or 43 error message?? you can disconnect it (or cut a wire to the sensor as access is tight) with no ill effects. I do not think they are avail any more.
Peter Brady
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Wednesday, April 01, 2015 - 06:32 pm, by:  Peter Brady (Peterb) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Tom
No it does not seem like the pump is working, could this be a fuse or something. Could you also please tell me how to run the brake diagnostics I keep reading about in the threads.
Peter
Tom Richards
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nsw
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Friday, April 03, 2015 - 10:07 am, by:  Tom Richards (Tomr) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

peter

http://soarercentral.com/sc-forum/messages/1113/1467.html?1104496671

the motor may have burned out due to running all the time. can you measure at the motor plug and see if it is getting voltage. I think i have a pump off my son's car under the house some where if the pump it self is stuffed.
Peter Brady
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Friday, April 03, 2015 - 09:12 pm, by:  Peter Brady (Peterb) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Tom
Thanks for that advice, my son-in-law who is a mechanic and keen Japanese sports car man is due back from the mines on Tuesday so I will get him to have a look at it and will contact you if it is the motor. It did run a lot when I first got the car and found a replacement accumulator so it wouldn't surprise me if it has died. How much do you want for your one.
Peter
Dave Rose
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wa
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Saturday, April 04, 2015 - 09:52 am, by:  Dave Rose (Sand_groper) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

it could be the pressure switch u/s ! it feeds the pump so if no volts at pump go back to switch feed .
thinking its been closed for a long time (pump running) now its had to start work again and contacts may burnt ?? just a thought.
Tom Richards
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Saturday, April 04, 2015 - 02:37 pm, by:  Tom Richards (Tomr) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

peter let me know if the pump is stuffed.

$20 + freight if you think thats fair.
Peter Brady
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Saturday, April 04, 2015 - 02:54 pm, by:  Peter Brady (Peterb) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dave
Is the pressure switch the same as the DVS switch and Tom the price sounds very fair.
Peter
Dave Rose
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Sunday, April 05, 2015 - 09:16 am, by:  Dave Rose (Sand_groper) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Not sure Peter, this may be of some help?

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Tom Richards
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Sunday, April 05, 2015 - 10:30 am, by:  Tom Richards (Tomr) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

the dvs i am sure is at the back of the master cylinder, near the firewall. You see it looking down from the top.
Peter Brady
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Sunday, April 05, 2015 - 12:09 pm, by:  Peter Brady (Peterb) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks guys for the help so far, there was someone selling English copies of workshop manuals for the Soarer but when I emailed them they did not reply so I presume they do not sell them any more. Do you know of anyone else who has these documents and might sell me a copy.
Peter
Rob Charles
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Victoria
V8 UZZ31

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Sunday, April 05, 2015 - 02:25 pm, by:  Rob Charles (Pearl_white) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Peter - you are talking about the Soarer bible - which is not exactly what it seems.

It is marketed as the one book all Soarer owners need - but offers nothing.

All it offers is a stock UZZ30 LEXUS SC400 manual.
The uZZ31 and 32 manuals are still in japanese.
So - no air suspension or emv details etc.
It does have wiring diagrams though (for the uzz30).

This book is terrific if you have a non Japanese car, as all the bible is - is the stock Lexus manuals.
The six cylinder non turbo - and the Sc400 Lexus.
The steering wheel is on the wrong side in all diagrams also.

You can buy a Lexus SC400 manual for $20 from ebay or similar. Look up 'haynes lexus sc400 manual'.

$100 for the Soarer bible is nonsense, considering all the information we need is not even in English.

If you need a workshop manual, provide your Email address and you will be sorted out.
No cost.

I have created my own personal book based on the Soarer bible - including English diagrams/parts which UZZ31/32 owners need - and the Soarer bible does not have.
Basically, everything that should have been in English - is now in English.
It is a 600mb file.

I have added ENGLISH EMV repair/diagnostic sections and air suspension sections.
So - combined with the UZZ30 manual in the Soarer bible, it becomes a UZZ31/32 manual also - in English.

All information in the bible can be found on these forums - at a faster rate - considering the Soarer bible PDF does not even have a proper page guide index.

The book is in PDF form - so you need a PDF viewer (or firefox) to view the pages.

Recap: If your car was a Jap spec vehicle - the Soarer bible manual is still in Japanese - so the soarer bible is slightly useless unless you have an American Lexus version instead.
$100 is too much to spend for what is offered in 2015. (so no TT, and no UZZ31/32 info is in English basically - aside from my own copy).
Jan van Berendonk
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Sunday, April 05, 2015 - 05:11 pm, by:  Jan van Berendonk (Janjen) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Robert, I have tried to do the same, would be happy to have a copy of your workshop manual to fill some of the gaps. I have a full set of USA 1994 Manuals (paper) if you ever need something I can photocopy sections for you in return.
My email address is in my profile. Or burn to a CD and postage?
Jan
Rob Charles
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Tuesday, April 07, 2015 - 12:14 pm, by:  Rob Charles (Pearl_white) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Jan,
I am just figuring out a way to send it.

Email allows like 10mb max, so I will have to upload it to a site probably and give you a link.

Otherwise, I can transfer it in real time with a program called XFIRE (or even Skype or msn or whatever the kids use these days).

I'll work it out later tonight and get back to you :-)
Peter Brady
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V8

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Tuesday, April 07, 2015 - 05:18 pm, by:  Peter Brady (Peterb) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Rob
My email address is also in my profile and if you cannot find it I will post it (not sure if we are supposed to or not)my car does not have the air suspension any more so any thing else you think would be a help and is not to much trouble would be gratefully received. I must admit I had not had much to do with any car site before I got my Soarer but it seems to me that it is very well run and everyone is extremely helpful. Most sites I have seen on other subjects just seem to be full of abuse and arguments.
Rob Charles
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Tuesday, April 07, 2015 - 07:05 pm, by:  Rob Charles (Pearl_white) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi guys,

Just uploading the file to a site now.

I will send an Email including the link as soon as uploaded.

(I am uploading with a 300kb speed however, so you MIGHT have to check late tonight, or in the morning)

You will click the link, you will click "download", and you will download a 600mb RAR file.

The Rar file is like a zip file.
It contains compressed items.

You need winRAR or winZIP to decompress the files.
This is a free program which most of you should already have.

I will send emails shortly including password and link.

If you could - keep it private.
Do not post the link and password on the forums.
This is for you guys only.

The power is in your hands once you get the information however - so it's up to you what you do with it.

Also, I seem to have lost the airbag suspension info, but if needed - I can find it again in a day or two. But hey - I just saved you $100 :-)
Rob Charles
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Tuesday, April 07, 2015 - 08:24 pm, by:  Rob Charles (Pearl_white) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Update - file cancelled at 390mb.

Found a new upload site which will work.
Will upload overnight.

Check Email around 11am :-)

Sorry!
Rob Charles
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Wednesday, April 08, 2015 - 04:24 pm, by:  Rob Charles (Pearl_white) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ok - so - turns out my upload speed is crap, and the file keeps timing out.

I am sending emails now to arrange file transfer over xfire (or skype).

You guys will be sorted out.

Sorry for the delay!
Peter Brady
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Monday, April 13, 2015 - 07:12 pm, by:  Peter Brady (Peterb) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Tom
Could you email cost of part plus overnight freight to Brisbane with banking details as I will grab electric pump if that offer still stands
Peter
Tom Richards
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nsw
V8

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Wednesday, April 15, 2015 - 05:30 am, by:  Tom Richards (Tomr) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

hi peter, i will chase it up for you today. I need to "dig the assy out" from under the house and remove the motor.
Tom Richards
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Friday, April 17, 2015 - 05:38 pm, by:  Tom Richards (Tomr) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

peter, i have been "layed up" this wk, but will get to it at the wkend. Sorry for the delay.
Peter Brady
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Saturday, April 18, 2015 - 05:55 am, by:  Peter Brady (Peterb) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks Tom I appreciate your help
Peter Brady
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Saturday, April 25, 2015 - 03:21 pm, by:  Peter Brady (Peterb) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Can anyone tell me if the brake pumps and DVS switches changed over the years Soarers were made or are the different years interchangable
Tom Richards
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Sunday, April 26, 2015 - 12:19 pm, by:  Tom Richards (Tomr) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

peter, i am on nsw central coast and been hit with sever storms last wk. I had no power and no phone coverage for nearly 4 days. Friends are still without power and I have been helping with fallen trees and house damage. Do you still require the pump?
Peter Brady
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Monday, April 27, 2015 - 07:35 pm, by:  Peter Brady (Peterb) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Tom
Yes please, car still off road and am starting to get desperate for drive.
Peter
Tom Richards
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Wednesday, April 29, 2015 - 09:14 am, by:  Tom Richards (Tomr) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

hi peter i have removed the motor and pump assy with leads. (all complete)

see it on daves parts list above. Nitrogen cylinder is missing. It wts just under 4kg and i can post it in a post office bag or box. Postage is ~$20 based on wt/size, + $20 for item + post office box

Are you OK with $50 all up?

send me a PM with your address etc and i will send you my banking details.
Jan van Berendonk
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Thursday, August 27, 2015 - 05:58 pm, by:  Jan van Berendonk (Janjen) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Is there a Tutorial on replacing the Brake/ABS unit? Peter how hard/easy was it to remove?

May need to swap my unit in the near future.
Cheers,
Jan
Jan van Berendonk
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I have just replaced the piston kit - part number 04493-24070 on my spare Brake/ABS unit prior to swap over. The Piston Kit is still available via Amayama Trading for under $150.
Mike Beck
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Wednesday, January 13, 2016 - 09:38 pm, by:  Mike Beck (Gold_40gt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Jan van Berendonk wrote on Tuesday, January 12, 2016 - 10:32 pm:

I have just replaced the piston kit - part number 04493-24070 on my spare Brake/ABS unit prior to swap over. The Piston Kit is still available via Amayama Trading for under $150.




What part are you referring to when you say piston kit?
Jan van Berendonk
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Thursday, January 14, 2016 - 09:53 am, by:  Jan van Berendonk (Janjen) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Part is shown in the link.
http://www.japan-parts.eu/JP/4/470104.png

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