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Shane Ilich
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TT

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Monday, August 22, 2005 - 11:19 pm, by:  Shane Ilich Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

well, i've got my first track day coming up, and having spent a few weeks getting the engine and auto sorted (shift kit, tranny cooler, fmic, pod, boost controller, fuel adjuster) its now time i turn my attention to my brakes.

wondering if people can recommend any good pads/rotors/setups for use on the track, that will also still serve me well enough for daily driving? are slotted rotors necessary for the track? if so, can someone give me some ballpark figures, so i know i'm not gonna get ripped if i do purchase them?
Jeff Hogan
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Soarer TT

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Tuesday, August 23, 2005 - 12:02 am, by:  Jeff Hogan Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

From what ive seen DBA 4000 series slotted rotors with supra 4 pots would be a good setup, and EBC green stuff pads for use on the track seems like good combo. as for price, i have no idea, couldnt find any prices on the DBA website, but im sure some of the other guys will have an idea
Emanuel Spinola
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JZZ30

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Tuesday, August 23, 2005 - 09:08 am, by:  Emanuel Spinola Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ditch the EBC greenstuff for anything other than novel use - pretty useless on a heavy Soarer.
Stephen Hille
TryHard
V8 LTD

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Tuesday, August 23, 2005 - 10:11 am, by:  Stephen Hille Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I will let ya know how good braided lines are when I get back to Perth!!
Daniel Habib
Tinkerer
Shopping for a manual TT...

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Tuesday, August 23, 2005 - 10:50 am, by:  Daniel Habib Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I used ferodo DS2500 pads on my S15 200SX with excellent results on both the street and track (combined with DBA 4000 rotors and decent fluid). I'd be curious to see how the combo works on the heavier soarer, but from what i've heard, they should do a good job - and even better if you can combine them with the 4pot supra brakes..
Damien Smith
TryHard
Manual UZZ31

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Tuesday, August 23, 2005 - 12:36 pm, by:  Damien Smith Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Up the front I have LS400 (Celsior) 4-pot front brakes with RDA slotted disks, braided brake lines and Ferodo DS2500 pads and on the rear I have Soarer TT disks and callipers with EBC kevlar pads and braided lines and I use Motul RBF600 fluid which Manny put me onto. At Oran Park I had the front brakes smoking (not heaps) but no fade whatsoever. Previous to that was Wakefield Park but with Dot4 Castrol brake fluid and the pedal felt a tad softer but no real fade.

Even if you put DS2500 pads in your TT front brakes you'll be happy but I use standard toyota pads on the street as the Ferodos are a bit wooden when cold.
Daniel Habib
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Shopping for a manual TT...

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Tuesday, August 23, 2005 - 12:38 pm, by:  Daniel Habib Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Damien, sorry for the off topic post, but what lap times have you done in the soarer at wakefield?
Mark Paddick
Goo Roo
Soarer UZZ31

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Tuesday, August 23, 2005 - 12:51 pm, by:  Mark Paddick Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

For any of the 4-pot brakes braided lines are a must or you will have a low pedal.
I went with standard Supra rotors with the Supra 4-pots as they are heaps cheaper than DBA.
Damien Smith
TryHard
Manual UZZ31

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Tuesday, August 23, 2005 - 12:58 pm, by:  Damien Smith Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Daniel, only got a 1.20 at Wakefield but that was my first track day. Oran park was much better considering my relatively overweight/underpowered UZZ31 :-)
Daniel Habib
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Shopping for a manual TT...

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Tuesday, August 23, 2005 - 01:07 pm, by:  Daniel Habib Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks Damien - do you know of any soarers lapping in the mid-low teens at wakefield?
Emanuel Spinola
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JZZ30

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Tuesday, August 23, 2005 - 02:28 pm, by:  Emanuel Spinola Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

1.13s at Wakefield Park
0.52s at Oran Park South
on semi-slicks
Supra 4 pots front
Supra 2 pots rear
DBA 4000 slotted front and rear
Hawk HPS+ pads
Braided lines
Motul RBF600
and a few suspension mods but full weight
Daniel Habib
Tinkerer
Shopping for a manual TT...

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Tuesday, August 23, 2005 - 02:53 pm, by:  Daniel Habib Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

what power do you have Emanuel - they're pretty good times! i did a 1:13 in my relatively stock R32GTR.. makes me happy to see that the soarer can still get around a track at a decent pace!
Emanuel Spinola
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JZZ30

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Tuesday, August 23, 2005 - 02:59 pm, by:  Emanuel Spinola Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

~240rwkw/14 psi for track days
Justin Hughes
TryHard
V8 UZZ31 LTD

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Tuesday, August 23, 2005 - 03:19 pm, by:  Justin Hughes Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Nothing wrong with EBC GREENSTUFF Manny, they pull my BIG Bertha up from 190kph into T4 at the Island - No Problemo (lap after lap after lap)

Just ask Hayden and Scotty about my late braking exploits - scares the daylights out of them !!!!!!!!!!!!
Jeff Harper
Trader
UZZ32 Active V8

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Tuesday, August 23, 2005 - 03:24 pm, by:  Jeff Harper Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

yes and there is plenty of cooling on PI, try a track where you have to use them all the time, like Wakefield.
Emanuel Spinola
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JZZ30

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Tuesday, August 23, 2005 - 03:30 pm, by:  Emanuel Spinola Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Juzza
Since skill, power and terminal speed doesn't account for it, brakes may explain why you're apparently fast around PI - they're useless at slowing you down! :-)

They have apparently changed compounds in the last few years which may have corrected the previous issues with pad material breaking up, but I don't give anyone a second chance if they
f@ck me up once!

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