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Gary Rollason
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Qld
TT

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Thursday, April 10, 2008 - 12:42 pm, by:  Gary Rollason (Garyr) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Her is a link to a fantastic tutorial for doing the timing belt and water pump 100,000km service.

Tells you everything you need to know, great piece of work!

http://toymods.net/forums/showthread.php?t=14262&highlight=replacing+timing+belt+water+pump
David Vaughan
Goo Roo
ACT
V8 Ltd manual

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Friday, April 11, 2008 - 09:56 am, by:  David Vaughan (Davidv) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Here is a tutorial for the V8. Soarer World is the new name for the British forum prevously known as TIF.

http://www.soarerworld.com/forum/showthread.php?t=24037
Barry Main
Tinkerer
Victoria
TT Manual

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Sunday, June 29, 2008 - 12:02 pm, by:  Barry Main (Barry_m) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Gary,

As a relatively new member of the forum, I just want to thank you for going to so much trouble and so much detail. Only a mug could get this wrong. You obviously love your Soarer and love doing your own work. More power to you. Keep up the good work next time you tackle something significant.
Mike Beck
Goo Roo
New Zealand
Soarer Limited UZZ31 & Soarer 3.0GT JZZ31

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Sunday, June 29, 2008 - 01:36 pm, by:  Mike Beck (Gold_40gt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I don't think Gary did that actual Tutorial.

Looks like its from another forum done by someone else.

Great who ever did this though!
Ben Lipman
DieHard
NSW
Soarer TT manual

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Sunday, June 29, 2008 - 02:08 pm, by:  Ben Lipman (Ben12a) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I was going to write one up. I took heaps of notes and photos as I did my 100000km service. Just as I finished the service this was posted. I couldn't improve on it so I well enough alone.

The only difficult thing is that damn 22mm nut on the harmonic balancer...
Andrew Stewart
TryHard
Queensland
Manual GT-T VVT-i Single Turbo

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Sunday, June 29, 2008 - 05:16 pm, by:  Andrew Stewart (Daboom) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

i totally agree, the process (except for the damn harmonic ballancer, it broke my mechanic's snap on breaker bar, and it took a 3/4" rattle gun (1200nm) to break the factory loctite, man it is strong stuff!!!) anyway, once you get the harmonic ballancer off, the job is fairly painless and takes around 2 hours, as i said, once you get the ballencer bolt undone, and off
Dave Rose
TryHard
wa
uzz31 v8

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Sunday, June 29, 2008 - 06:46 pm, by:  Dave Rose (Sand_groper) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Always try and use a rattle gun to break the 22m/m bolt as a breaker bar puts a lot of strain on the engine mounts especially the passenger side
if you have to use a bar use a long one and have a gap of at least 4 inchs before it hits the ground.
James Barnett
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NSW
Soarer GT-T

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Friday, August 29, 2008 - 05:50 pm, by:  James Barnett (James85) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Been doing this bit by bit but am stuck on the 22mm bolt too :-(
Have tried with a rattle gun and no luck. Any suggestions?

(A marine mechanic mate of mine wants to heat the thing up with a blow torch to get rid of the lock tight. I've put that suggestion on hold )
Brian Timms
Goo Roo
New South Wales
TT Soarer Goodness.

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Friday, August 29, 2008 - 06:15 pm, by:  Brian Timms (Turbo_brian) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

James,

I had a similar issue.

My first attemp was a 1200CCA battery, a 22mm FLAT socket, and a breaker bar wedged ont the ground, and turning the engine over, this resulted first time in me snapping a cheap breaker-bar, and second through 8th time actually lifting the front of the car off the ground (note, remove ignition pack when doing this so the engine doesn't actually start (that's bad m-kay).


BEST thing to do is to head to Toyota and get the nut removing tool, you might need to order it on, but it is basically a tool that fits over the bolt, and bolts onto the harmonic balancer, then a second bit goes inside it, and you use both the arms (about 1.5 meters in length) to lever and crack the bolt.

The other 2 options are less prefered, but in order they are:
Option 1:
Use soft nylon rope, remove spark plug on cylinder 1 and feed the nylon rope into the cylinder, leaving obviously enough to pull it back out, but having enough to fill up the gap, then turn the motor by hand until it locks up, and use a massive lever to GENTLY crack the bolt.


Option 2:
Heat the head of the bolt RED hot to melt any locktite, rust, corrosion from the bolt, and immediate while red hit the bolt with a bloody strong rattle gun (Be aware, that an adverse reaction from this is that you could infact heat the bolt to much, and rattle gun the head off requiring drilling and tapping the thread, or you could damage the lower front bearings from heat (like I did).

I have spoken to people who have done the nylon rope method, and it's far superior for the back yard mechanic, because it gives you control on what's happening, the pressures, the tensions, etc.

Also, from experience, a rattle gun wont get off stupidly stubburn bolts as good as good old fashioned leverage, I tried with a few bolts on a friends car, used a 1/2" drive rattle on 250psi, bolts didn't budge, got a breaker bar, extender pipe, and long socket, and gently applied leverage, and the bolt gently and smoothly cracked, and started unwinding, then it was back to regular ratchet and socket for the rest.

Hope this helps.

B.
James Barnett
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NSW
Soarer GT-T

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Friday, August 29, 2008 - 06:57 pm, by:  James Barnett (James85) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks Brian! I've already tried the the first option with no luck. :-(
I might have a look into the nut removal tool from Toyota but I'm guessing it will be expensive.

Option 1 sound like a plan, will give that one a go tomorrow!
fingers crossed
Ben Socratous
Goo Roo
SA
I am the fibreglass/kevlar/carbonfibre king!

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Saturday, August 30, 2008 - 08:19 am, by:  Ben Socratous (Socrates) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

When I did mine we fist tried the rattle gun that we had on hand, I think it was around the 700nm mark? It failed. Whipped out the snap-on 1200nm gun and the bolt quivered at the sight of the fearsome bolt turning power I held before me!

Then again, I did everything with the motor on the bench, making a tad easier too. lol
Matthew Sharpe
Goo Roo
North Island
JZZ31

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Saturday, August 30, 2008 - 02:21 pm, by:  Matthew Sharpe (Madmatt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Harmonic balancer bolts are not assembled with locktight, nor should they ever be put back that way.
Gary Rollason
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Friday, September 12, 2008 - 05:47 pm, by:  Gary Rollason (Garyr) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Whilst I would love to claim authorship of the tutorial, that honour belongs to Barned01, whoever he may be. I just provided the link. I can only say that I wish I had found it PRIOR to doing the job myself. Fortunately I didn't have any problems with the 22mm harmonic balancer bolt, but I must say that I cannot stress enough how important it is to set top dead centre and align the timing marks on the crank and both cams. Would have saved me the hassle of pulling everything apart again twice to reset the timing.
Good advice about the 22mm bolt Brian and Matthew.
April Crampton
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South
V8

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Monday, June 08, 2009 - 10:31 am, by:  April Crampton (April197) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

HI,

Is there any notes on how the cam belt timing marks for the V8 1UZ
Kim Hunt
TryHard
NSW
Supercharged SC400\Soarer GT-L UZZ31, Twin Turbo Soarer JZZ30

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Monday, June 08, 2009 - 07:52 pm, by:  Kim Hunt (Lxtasi) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

there should be marks on the cam gears and harmonic balance from memory. line the harmonic balancer up with 0 and it should be top dead centre
Dave Rose
DieHard
wa
uzz31 v8

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Tuesday, June 09, 2009 - 06:44 pm, by:  Dave Rose (Sand_groper) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


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Cameron James
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NSW
Soarer GT-TL

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Thursday, January 14, 2010 - 10:50 pm, by:  Cameron James (Dinosoarer) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Note to 1JZ owners who dont have access to air tools, can't undo the crank bolt using a breaker bar and the starter torque or dont want to pop the starter out to lock the motor - here is a tip...

Find an old serpentine belt and cut out a section so it covers the crank pulley surface - then lock some chain grips (vice grips with chain) onto the pulley and wedge it against the water pump (below)



The section of belt stops the chain grips damaging the pulley surface - works a treat - i just finished pulling mine apart!
Matthew Sharpe
Goo Roo
North Island
JZZ31

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Friday, January 15, 2010 - 05:54 am, by:  Matthew Sharpe (Madmatt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Good tip!
Claude Tetlow
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WA
240Z + TT 1JZ

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Wednesday, April 14, 2010 - 07:26 pm, by:  Claude Tetlow (Claude) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Isn't there a chance the rubber in the harmonic balancer will de-laminate if you grip the outer ring?
I think that's why the toyota tool bolts to the inside part of the balancer.

I'm due to do my 200000km service.
I'll try a few different methods no doubt.

Has any one taken out the starter motor and successfully held the ring gear? If I were handy with steel I'd make something that bolts in where the starter goes and has teeth that mesh with the ring gear.
Brett Harrison
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QLD
JZZ30

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Wednesday, April 14, 2010 - 07:42 pm, by:  Brett Harrison (Bretto) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Will be facing this job in next few weeks,

I really want one of these,
http://www.etooldirect.com/schley-64300-lexus-toyota-harmonic-damper-holding-tool.html

Alot of the guys in the US don't ship O/S unfortunately.

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Jessica O'Brien
Tinkerer
Tasmania
V8

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Reg: 07-2010

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Tuesday, November 26, 2013 - 12:45 pm, by:  Jessica O'Brien (The_captain) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hey I cant access the link for the V8 option. I have a Soarer worlds account but still cant view it. Is there another link?
Tom Richards
Goo Roo
nsw
V8

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Tuesday, November 26, 2013 - 02:55 pm, by:  Tom Richards (Tomr) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

http://planetsoarer.com/cambelt/cambelt.htm

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