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Tom Burgan
Tinkerer
SA
TT
Posts: 87
Reg: 01-2006
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I came across this tutorial of how to install a BLITZ boost controller to a Soarer. I just got myself a Turbosmart e-boost controller so I will be investigating how easily this tutorial can be done next week probably.
http://www.gtautosound.com/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=54 |
Paul Irwin
Trader
NSW
GT-T (1JZ-GTE)
Posts: 249
Reg: 07-2005
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whoops, i was going to put together a tutorial for the boost controller about a year ago but forgot...
i will see if i still have all the images.
feel free to email if you have any questions along the way. |
Cihan Aday
DieHard
Victoria
JZZ30
Posts: 946
Reg: 07-2005
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Dont splice into the fuel pressure regulator pressure source. If that comes off, by by 1JZ. Just take it from the heater line on the other side of intake manifold.
Also dont cut the boost lines to 'FIT'.
Cut them so they are EVEN, and MAKE them fit by controlling overall length.
- Make sure that the 'rubber' hosing is far away from the heat sheild as it will fracture and become damaged after a few months from the heat.
- Dont use plastic zip ties for actuator ends if your doing a permanent installation. They become brittle and crack with almost no force after a while.
You might take shortcuts on your own car, but in an article preaching the 'truth', you dont take shortcuts!
ps. How do you replace a rubber gromet if the cablings already been threaded.. without cutting it (rendering it useless) or undoing all the cabling and feeding it through again? |
Ben Daniel
TryHard
WA
Twin Turbo
Posts: 412
Reg: 03-2006
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Im gonna attemp my boost controller on the weekend. I just need to know tho, I have the Apexi AVCR, with the solenoid it has 2 feeds coming off it. Is each one of those feeds for each turbo or whats the go there ?? |
Rob Andreacchio
Moderator
Victoria
Supercharged VT Calais
Posts: 1742
Reg: 01-2005
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read the manual that comes with it...
you will need to buy some "T" pieces to fit it correctly. |
Ben Daniel
TryHard
WA
Twin Turbo
Posts: 413
Reg: 03-2006
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The boost controller came with all the T pieces needed and clamps etc. The Manual isn't very helpful but :/ |
Rob Andreacchio
Moderator
Victoria
Supercharged VT Calais
Posts: 1750
Reg: 01-2005
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it came with everything required for a single turbo setup or a twin turbo setup?
Basically, you need to join the 2 turbo actuator lines to one end of the solenoid, and join the 2 comp cover lines to the other end of the solenoid.. |
Ben Daniel
TryHard
WA
Twin Turbo
Posts: 414
Reg: 03-2006
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I thought the kit wasn't turbo set up specific ??? it could be used on any.
I know where the actuator lines are but where are the comp cover lines ??? |
Rob Andreacchio
Moderator
Victoria
Supercharged VT Calais
Posts: 1752
Reg: 01-2005
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it can be used on any turbo setup, but you may require more hose and T pieces than provided for the installation in a twin turbo vehicle.
the comp cover lines.... on the comp cover.... rear of the turbo. |
Peter Ha
DieHard
NSW
Soarer TT
Posts: 628
Reg: 07-2005
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is there one of these tutorials for the Apexi AVCR? |
Braden Murdoch
TryHard
NSW
Cressida 1JZ TT
Posts: 136
Reg: 04-2006
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Link it up like this pic:
http://ribfeast.no-ip.com/boost_controller_install.jpg
Substitute the Hiperboost for your own boost controller. |
Peter Ha
DieHard
NSW
Soarer TT
Posts: 629
Reg: 07-2005
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Thanks Braden, just what i needed 
should i make a mini tutorial for installing a AVCR for noobs? |
Braden Murdoch
TryHard
NSW
Cressida 1JZ TT
Posts: 139
Reg: 04-2006
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No worries Peter
Feel free to make a tutorial if you like! The pics in the link above are tiny. |
Lindsey Swan
TryHard
QLD
GTT-L
Posts: 243
Reg: 07-2005
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So in that picture that Braden posted...
Is all the piping of equal length? |
Kurt Porter
TryHard
W.A.
Soarer TT
Posts: 386
Reg: 05-2007
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hey guys,
I'm sorry to reopen this thread but I have a manual turbosmart incabin boost controller that I want to install this weekend.
Here's a pic of it from Turbosmart website and a link to the installation instructions.
http://www.turbosmart.com.au/index.php?s=file_download&id=18
Seeing that is for single turbo...how would I install it for my TT? |
Kurt Porter
TryHard
W.A.
Soarer TT
Posts: 387
Reg: 05-2007
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I was also just looking on the Turbosmart "Boost Tee" install guide and it shows on bottom of pge 2 of how to do it on a Twin Turbo setup...
http://www.turbosmart.com.au/index.php?s=file_download&id=171
Can I use my incabin controller exactly the same way ??? Or would I have to do some things different?
Thanks |
Kurt Porter
TryHard
W.A.
Soarer TT
Posts: 388
Reg: 05-2007
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Also....
On a stock TT is their 1 or 2 pressure sources? (FORGIVE ME) |
Kurt Porter
TryHard
W.A.
Soarer TT
Posts: 389
Reg: 05-2007
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Is it possible to connect it like the picture that Braden has provided above with what I have?
I'll just need to buy extra t-piece and hose?
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Kurt Porter
TryHard
W.A.
Soarer TT
Posts: 390
Reg: 05-2007
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Is it possible to connect it like the picture that Braden has provided above with what I have?
I'll just need to buy extra t-piece and hose?
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Joshua Rowland
Goo Roo
Victoria
TT GTTL(Manual)
Posts: 1109
Reg: 08-2005
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Kurt,
you will need to get another 2 T pieces and some more hose probably.
Dont look at the above pic of braden's.
thats for a electronic boost controller setup.
I just installed a boost controller like yours in a mates soarer and this is what i did.
Put a T piece in between the factory hose which goes from actuator to the compressor for each turbo and then use the last t piece to join both of the turbo and then use the top inlet to go to your boost controller, which we had in the cabin. |
Kurt Porter
TryHard
W.A.
Soarer TT
Posts: 393
Reg: 05-2007
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hey josh, thanks for the info mate.
so do you have to take the heat sheild off to get to the turbos ?
Theirs no way you could do up a QUICK diagram is there mate....PLLLLLEASE??? |
Kurt Porter
TryHard
W.A.
Soarer TT
Posts: 394
Reg: 05-2007
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does it matter where i place the t piece supplied above? |
Kurt Porter
TryHard
W.A.
Soarer TT
Posts: 395
Reg: 05-2007
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ok I get what you mean Josh. I did a quick diagram just then but the work scanner is kaput at the moment...will post it up once it returns to life.
ok in the pic above do i connect the yellow inlet to the vaccum line same as boost gauge?
and for the blue inlet i connect like you said to the top of t-piece?
Finally.....the hoses should be even right? |
Kurt Porter
TryHard
W.A.
Soarer TT
Posts: 396
Reg: 05-2007
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(LAST QUESTIONS)
Did you have to point the arrows in the right direction aswell? eg: t-pce supplied?
where'd you use the supplied tpce josh? (does it really matter)
does the yellow circled inlet just need a hose connected there and the other end of the hose to just sit in the engine bay? |
Kurt Porter
TryHard
W.A.
Soarer TT
Posts: 398
Reg: 05-2007
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Could anyone kindly help me out please? |
Kurt Porter
TryHard
W.A.
Soarer TT
Posts: 404
Reg: 05-2007
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seeing that the kit i have above has 1 wastegate t-pce for 1 turbo what would i use on the 2nd one? just a normal t-pce? or would i have to get another of the same? |
Kurt Porter
TryHard
W.A.
Soarer TT
Posts: 407
Reg: 05-2007
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Could anyone please help? |
Blake Gloyn
TryHard
manawatu
soarer JZZ30 TT
Posts: 142
Reg: 02-2006
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arrows must point the same direction as air flow. if you can't work it out kurt, please get someone else to install it.You don't want to get it wrong!!! |
Joshua Rowland
Goo Roo
Victoria
TT GTTL(Manual)
Posts: 1111
Reg: 08-2005
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Kurt mate, ring me on 0400641268 and we have a chat about the install. |
Matchy Loi
TryHard
VIC
GTT
Posts: 105
Reg: 06-2006
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I thought i'd ask here before I started a new post, but i wanted to know that if its almost a requirement to take off all the piping on top of the turbos to get to the rear actuator?
Because i tried reaching it, i even tried to get my girlfriend to try it and she's got absolutely tiny hands and she said she wouldn't be able to work much on it in that space.
Also, just wanted to confirm something. I'm planning to set up my boost controller which is a TurboXS manual dual-stage pretty much exactly the way shown in Brandons picture at http://ribfeast.no-ip.com/boost_controller_install.jpg |
Matchy Loi
TryHard
VIC
GTT
Posts: 106
Reg: 06-2006
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One other thing, i spoke to a friend who mods cars for a part time-living at home at the way he told me to do it is very similar manner to how i'm planning to do it, but he said that you wouldn't need to get the compression outlet from both turbos.
Which is the same as this guide provided by Turbosmart
So what's the difference between sourcing it from one turbo or both? |
Dale Holan
TryHard
Alberta
2.5 GTT L
Posts: 240
Reg: 06-2007
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Any answer to Matchy's question? Anyone have an actual photo of the proper boost pressure source? |
Paul Bernasconi
TryHard
wa
soarer tt
Posts: 110
Reg: 11-2005
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im no expert but from what i think i know it should be fine to connect up to one pressure source.
my theory is that the wastegate actuators on the tt soarer are set to open at the boost limit of what ever it is. the boost controller will sit in line with the pipe from the pressure source and the actuators and addjust's the pressure so when pressure is at say 14psi the actuators are being sent less pressure and not opening. hence as long as the pressure source is the correct pressure it should be fine. |
Matchy Loi
TryHard
VIC
GTT
Posts: 111
Reg: 06-2006
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I just had a little think about it, I seem to recall reading somewhere that the turbos may not be producing the exact same amount of boost. i.e one turbo works harder than the other.
So if you were to source the pressure from one, then that may not be the exact same as the other.
So i just got the pressure from both turbos, I can't think of any reason why it would make it any less effective in safe boosting. And it only requires a little extra hose. |
Alan Chow
DieHard
Vic
GTT-L
Posts: 827
Reg: 12-2006
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me and morgan just installed my one.
What we found was that the rear compressor was hard to get to (at least without taking off the inlet piping). So what we did was take off the existing hose from the actuator and connect up a joiner piece to it. This way the only piping you'll really need to take off is your intercooler piping that goes over the top of the front turbo. You might want to take off your airbox piping so that you can put in the hose t piece easier as well. |
Jacob Thomas
Tinkerer
SA
VVTi Turbo
Posts: 22
Reg: 01-2010
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Just a quick question, wouldn't it be more worth while taking the pressure source from the manifold rather than the turbo outlet. Afterall its manifold pressure that matters in the end |
Boris Siljanoski
DieHard
Western Australia
Soarer GZ20 TT
Posts: 924
Reg: 11-2007
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Most of the time the signal is taken from the manifold, so when you set it to 14 PSI, the boost controller will regulate it to make 14 PSI at the manifold. |
Blake Gloyn
DieHard
manawatu
soarer JZZ30 TT
Posts: 588
Reg: 02-2006
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the advantage of sourcing the boost signal for the boost controller from the turbo outlet is that if there is a boost leak in your piping, then the boost gauge (assuming its pressure source is from the manifold) will show that boost loss. If the controller sees manifold pressure, then you can have a big boost leak, and the turbos may be spinning excessively fast, just to achieve the desired boost level... and you never know about it. It can stuff you turbos. |
Aaron Casey
Goo Roo
nsw
'94 jzz30 gttl, 2 mini's one supercharged
Posts: 2136
Reg: 08-2005
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but also a good reason to get it from manifold is alot of cars suffer boost loss at higher rpm due to pressure drop across the intercooler, nissans are really bad for it. boost up a 180 and run 14psi.. will hit 14 then creep down to 8 again through higher rpm. i can see blakes point aswell but aslong as you have no boost leaks id go the manifold route. the cars are starting to get to a point where there could be many cracked hoses or bad connections from other peoples attempt of fitting aftermarket stuff. id spend 80 bucks get some turbosmart 4mm and 6mm silicone hose and alot of cable ties or clamps and go through the whole system and replace all the hoses. the amount of cracked hoses i found on mine while doing it and also the 2j im doing and alot of the soarers ive worked on you cant really tell they are leaking at idle but as soon as you get some boost in there they open up and there goes some power! |
Tazo Chitidze
Tinkerer
georgia
2.5 turbo
Posts: 28
Reg: 12-2010
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how many psi is max for stock soarer 1jz? i dont want to died turbo |
Aiden Cheese
Goo Roo
QLD
Soarer jzz30
Posts: 1028
Reg: 09-2009
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Around 14, 14.5psi is what the boost cut will be at on a stock ecu. After that you will want to have a fuel cut defender but then there's other issues like leaning out, so I'd only do that if you're doing no more than 15psi or less. If you want more boost then get an after market ECU like a Link or perhaps instead an inline solution like emanage.
I hear that the stock ct12a's can handle 18-20psi however you should be aware that this will not be exactly set and forget and can either exaggerate existing (or hidden) problems, or push your old engine past it's limit.
Goodluck have fun. |
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