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Alen Sadikovic
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Saturday, January 26, 2008 - 02:30 pm, by: Alen Sadikovic (Alen87)

i got home from work and i parked the car in the garage. as i walked past the bonnet i heard a boiling noise, i knew straight away what it was and the next minute....i see coolant pissing out.

now is it just my soarer or are their other soarers out their having the same problem on hot weather.

it was about 32 degrees today and i drove it for about 20-25min, mostly on the highway cruzing at 100km/h with the air con on full blast. could it be the hot weather or what??

i just recently installed a after market fan, full 16inch apparently biggest fan on market. i had problems with it, it kept melting the fuse and fan would stop working so obviously the car would over heat. but i just had that fixed yesterday, now i havent had the chance to fully test it but it was working when i got home.

any suggestions??? advice??? please....

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Saturday, January 26, 2008 - 02:41 pm, by: Brian Timms (Turbo_brian)

Alen,

Have you got the awesome Toyota Red cooland, or the pathetic green supercheap auto coolant??

Suggestion, coolant flush and professional radiator flush.

B.

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Saturday, January 26, 2008 - 02:42 pm, by: Brian Timms (Turbo_brian)

I drove mine around for a week in Bourke in Jan last year when it was 31 degrees at 8am, and 42 degrees at mod-day, never boiled and didn't have a radiator shroud at the time either.

B.

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Saturday, January 26, 2008 - 09:02 pm, by: Callum Finch (Sigeneat)

One of the advantages of having a car fitted with a turbo timer is i can keep the whole thing running (fan blowing, water pumping and all) for several minutes whilst walking away if i give it a particularly strong blatt ;)

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Sunday, January 27, 2008 - 12:05 pm, by: Alen Sadikovic (Alen87)

Callum Finch wrote on Saturday, January 26, 2008 - 09:02 pm:
One of the advantages of having a car fitted with a turbo timer is i can keep the whole thing running (fan blowing, water pumping and all) for several minutes whilst walking away if i give it a particularly strong blatt ;)

i havent thought of that, i do however have a turbo timer but i have to set it by remote. that button on the remote is stuff, but i guess i can hang out next to the car for several minutes and see...might even work

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Sunday, January 27, 2008 - 06:55 pm, by: Luke Nieuwhof (Luke_nieuwhof)

Alen, sounds odd, I regularly drive in the high 30s here in Perth and have no such problems.

Actually, on Callum's point, in terms of cooling on a hot day, would you be better to leave the car idling for a while, or just to turn it off given it wouldn't have too much air going past the radiator? I would have thought the latter was the better option.

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Monday, January 28, 2008 - 12:21 pm, by: Alen Sadikovic (Alen87)

i have no idea...waiting for a hot day again. i dads fairlane was playing up as well on hot weather and that was the first time ever, coolant pissing out every where.

taxi drivers once told me ages ago, if they have their air con on for too long on a hot day their cars over heat, so yeh, maybe its that.

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Monday, January 28, 2008 - 05:59 pm, by: Luke Burt (Burt)

Alen, seriously mate the red toyota coolant vs the green supercheap coolant, im guessing the difference in boiling point and actual properties of the stuff would be a tiny amount.. I don't know why people hate normal coolant so much.

I would try leaving the car on for a minute or so, make sure your thermo fan comes on while its idling.

I have a 12" thermo on mine, no fan shroud. I get no overheating. Have driven the car up a hill where it was constantly sitting on 5-6psi boost just to make it up the hill, about a 5min drive, boosting all the way up, only going 60 odd km's. Got to the top, dump pipe and exhaust housing where glowing red.. Car didnt spit a drop of water at me, temp never leaves the half way mark.

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Monday, January 28, 2008 - 06:38 pm, by: Peter Nitschke (Pen)

Toyota coolant is also designed to look after the alloy composition and seals etc.

Have a read of what the BMW boys have to say.

http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/showthread.php?t=66815

"OK, I know I sound a bit crazy, but I am not convinced about the 50 water / 50 BMW antifreeze mix thing.

I 'll tell you why. Every time I go to my specialist, I see one car that has either had cracked gasket, blocked cooling system, etc.

The answer I get is: "This is what water does to the engine. It slowly eats the alloy up with electrolysis, causing this to happen eventually.

Now, my car has had the original BMW factory thing for three and 1/2 years. I have just changed it recently with the 50% BMW antifreeze / 50% Table filtered water.

I must admit, I have never seen TOYOTAS having this kind of problem. It must be down to theit good quality antifreeze."

And so on. Not a bad read.

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Tuesday, January 29, 2008 - 09:37 am, by: Callum Finch (Sigeneat)

Luke Nieuwhof wrote on Sunday, January 27, 2008 - 06:55 pm:
I would have thought the latter was the better option.

The fan blowing against the engine on idle works quite well.

Try finding an area shielded from wind one day and compare how much heat you can feel coming off the engine when left to idle compared to when turned off.

Also, whats table filtered water?

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Tuesday, January 29, 2008 - 10:14 am, by: Luke Nieuwhof (Luke_nieuwhof)

Water filtered through a table?

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Tuesday, January 29, 2008 - 10:26 am, by: Luke Burt (Burt)

Yeah Peter but it may also be because the engines are far superior..

Until someone comes to me with the actual properties of Toyota Red Coolant, Versus a Normal Supercheap Coolant (still something half decent quality not the cheap cheap stuff) and proves to me theres a massive difference, I'm gonna stick with my green concentrate

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Tuesday, January 29, 2008 - 12:43 pm, by: Peter Nitschke (Pen)

The rest of us take care and pride in looking after our cars.

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Tuesday, January 29, 2008 - 12:53 pm, by: Naveen Perera (Black6)

Alen I had sort of the same problem on the supra and after I took it to my mechanic he checked it out and it turned out to be a radiator block and the radiator cap had cracked as well ...

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Tuesday, January 29, 2008 - 01:07 pm, by: Luke Burt (Burt)

So by using green coolant, which is fine by all standards, I don't look after my car?

When its all finished i'll be making a thread of the condition my car was in, and what i have done since owning it

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Tuesday, January 29, 2008 - 01:13 pm, by: Miles Baker (Milesb)

Be warned the different colours do mean different formulations. Some are made for iron blocks with copper radiators. Others for alloy blocks with aluminium radiators. Some are made for different types of water pump impellers. Silicates, phosphates, nitrites, borates.. they are formulated for the metals used.

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Tuesday, January 29, 2008 - 01:16 pm, by: Jose-Antonio Castillo (Ahh_soarer)

You don't have a cracked radiator top tank do you? Even if there are fine lines appearing on the tank they are stress marks due to age/heat, mine only had the beginning symptoms (or so I though), when it was removed the outlet (tank to engine) was completely eaten away...

This is in a 97 model, and having the same problem (except it actually split and spat out coolant) in my old 93, it's basically a given to change the top tank ASAP.

And that whole Toyota coolant thing, that's the only stuff I use (out of habit... been using it for the past 5 years since my old Soarer cracked the tank). Supposedly the chemical properties are designed around Toyota motors, and who will know Toyota motors better than Toyota themselves, eh?

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Tuesday, January 29, 2008 - 01:38 pm, by: Daniel Clarke (Dieseltrain)

Miles Baker wrote on Tuesday, January 29, 2008 - 01:13 pm:
Be warned the different colours do mean different formulations. Some are made for iron blocks with copper radiators. Others for alloy blocks with aluminium radiators. Some are made for different types of water pump impellers. Silicates, phosphates, nitrites, borates.. they are formulated for the metals used.

Totally agree with Miles here. A bottle of toyota Coolant concentrate is what $40?

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Tuesday, January 29, 2008 - 03:59 pm, by: Alen Sadikovic (Alen87)

well nice points been made here, for red and green coolant. at the moment i am using the green one since thats the only thing i have in the garage, i will keep in mind about the red one Vs green one next time i buy coolant.

for now i will have to check the cap and radiator for cracks and blocks, since the fan has been bolted on the radiator and there might have been a chance of something cracking.

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Tuesday, January 29, 2008 - 04:48 pm, by: Luke Burt (Burt)

Just be careful if you plan on changing coolant as mixing them can be quite detrimental. I'd try to stick with whats already in the car, and whats been in the car since youve owned it, unless you can be sure you can flush every last drop of existing coolant out.

But by the looks of this thread im going to be bashed quite soon by many other members for questioning the almighty toyota red coolant, so you may choose not to listen to what i have to say

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Tuesday, January 29, 2008 - 05:20 pm, by: Peter Nitschke (Pen)

Not at all, it's your car, look after it as you choose to.

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Wednesday, January 30, 2008 - 10:49 am, by: Alen Sadikovic (Alen87)

Luke Burt wrote on Tuesday, January 29, 2008 - 04:48 pm:
But by the looks of this thread im going to be bashed quite soon by many other members for questioning the almighty toyota red coolant

i have been in a similar situation, this is going to get nasty lol