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Daniel Renahan
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Saturday, October 04, 2008 - 01:21 pm, by: Daniel Renahan (Liasis35)

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Hey all how are we?? So my Question is this i am moving from Far North Queensland to Inner Melbs (St Kilda).. From what i gather your police are fairly strict down there compared to our guys, Is it possible for me to get a defect from your police or any state police if i am registered in Queensland??.. My car is defectable up here but living in small town i am seen as a car enthusiast and not a hoon by our police.

David Vaughan
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Saturday, October 04, 2008 - 01:32 pm, by: David Vaughan (Davidv)

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Brian Timms
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Saturday, October 04, 2008 - 01:41 pm, by: Brian Timms (Turbo_brian)

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If your car is defectable and not engineered correctly in it's state of registration, it is defectable in all states of Australia.

If it meets and complies with your registered state, your right.

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Daniel Renahan
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Saturday, October 04, 2008 - 01:42 pm, by: Daniel Renahan (Liasis35)

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but how?? If mods are legal up here but not in another state and i am registered in Queensland how can the defect me

Brian Timms
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Saturday, October 04, 2008 - 01:46 pm, by: Brian Timms (Turbo_brian)

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You said "My car is defectable up here" this means it's defectable EVERYWHERE!!!

Besides, a cop can defect a car on suspicioun, does not have to be a legitimate defectable item (such as 'wheels too large from stock', but if it's engineered this will be picked up AFTER you get your inspection done, and the defect notice removed.

Until then, if an officer of the law believes the car is dangerous and not road legal, he can take steps to have it removed from the road by way of a decet notice.

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Daniel Renahan
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Saturday, October 04, 2008 - 05:17 pm, by: Daniel Renahan (Liasis35)

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So if i am driving in Victoria and my car is defected do i have to produce it to Queensland transport or Vic Roads?? the only thing i can see as detectable on my car is mirror tint.. and being dumped via aftermarket airbag controller

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Saturday, October 04, 2008 - 05:54 pm, by: Brian Timms (Turbo_brian)

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If you are defected, you need to take your car for an inspection via an approved inspection point for your local area (where the car is registered), and have the listed items inspected and declared as safe for our make and model of vehicle.

You then need to take these results to your transport and registry office (again, where your registered) for the defect to be officially lifted.

If you move to Victoria (or from State/Territory A, to state/territory B), you have 14 days to have your car road worthy inspected, and the registration changed to your new residential address (this is the same with your licence).

This being said, you said in your first post that your moving, so you will be changing your registration to Victorian, which means your car will need to be road worthied for Victoria, which means if/when you get defected, your car will be required to meet Victorian requirements, doesn't matter where it was previously complied, it has to meet the requirements for the state or territory that it is registered in.

Quite simply, if you believe the mirror tint is going to cause you issues, get it taken off and replaced with legal/near legal window tinting that wont cause you dramas.

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Jason Munro
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Saturday, October 04, 2008 - 06:16 pm, by: Jason Munro (Jason_munro)

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Also,

If you have Vic License and QLD rego, you can be done for unregistered vehicle too.....
both MUST be in the same state.

Jason.

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Saturday, October 04, 2008 - 07:47 pm, by: Brian Timms (Turbo_brian)

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Jason,

Both do not have to be in the same state, I have been driving on a QLD licence for the last 9 months, because 60% of the time, I live in QLD, as a qld resident.

The Soarer, and now my Skyline GTR are both NSW registered, as they are both in mine and my g/f's name.

BUT, if it can be proven that you no longer live in the state of your licence, then you can have your 'visitational driving priveldges' removed, and then if you drive, your driving without valid licence for the state, and therefore your insurance is invalid on the vehicle.

If you get to this point, your in the •••• anyway (I had to prove myself to NSW RTA that I was not a resident of NSW, but was able to do this, and went through the fight to keep my driving privelidge in NSW and won).

That being said, I have had 3 RBT's and never had any issues with a Qld licence driving around in a NSW registered vehicle registered in the same name as the licence holder.

IT's all rather messy, but having said this, the original poster is moving, therefore the car WILL be registered as Victorian, as will his licence, and if he has defectable items, it will be defectable.

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David Vaughan
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Saturday, October 04, 2008 - 08:29 pm, by: David Vaughan (Davidv)

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My car is defectable up here...

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...it is defectable in all states of Australia

Nathan Richardson
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Saturday, October 04, 2008 - 08:31 pm, by: Nathan Richardson (Richtheblack)

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Hmmmmm, interesting. As I recall you dont even need a licence to register a vehicle, so that would make me think it does not really matter, however the address on your licence and your actual one is a different story, I think your given 3 months grace though if you move.

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Saturday, October 04, 2008 - 08:35 pm, by: David Vaughan (Davidv)

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Daniel, why do you drive a defectable car in the first place?

Why might you imagine a defect is not defectable?

Why are you looking for an escape on a public forum which is read by police?

Are you as thick as ... no, I had better not ask that question.

Jason Munro
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Saturday, October 04, 2008 - 09:43 pm, by: Jason Munro (Jason_munro)

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Brian,

once while on holidays up in Bris Vegas, we got pulled over in my car (NSW rego) and my mate (QLD lic) was driving, as i didn't know my way round).

first thing the cop asked was about the NSW rego...
(2nd thing he noticed was my racing seats) and asked if i had an engineers report for them.
should have seen the look on his face when i pulled the paperwork from the glove box. priceless !

so they do indeed notice these things.....

as you said, you have to PROVE where you are actually living, and the rego and lic should be in the same state (unless that's changed in the last few years)

Jason.

Mike Triggs
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Saturday, October 04, 2008 - 10:48 pm, by: Mike Triggs (Mikeandimah)

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Nathan Richardson wrote on Saturday, October 04, 2008 - 08:31 pm:
Hmmmmm, interesting. As I recall you dont even need a licence to register a vehicle, so that would make me think it does not really matter, however the address on your licence and your actual one is a different story, I think your given 3 months grace though if you move.

I had big hassles moving from Norfolk Is to WA, when we picked up our new car in Sydney, they wouldn't register it because I didn't hold a NSW licence nor did I live there. I had to resurrect my old licence no. and get a letter from my brother saying I was staying with him. All this took a week of stuffing around, and the RTA office near the dealer didn't want to recognise the efforts from the RTA I'd done all the stuffing around at (Botany-my daughter was in hospital "nearby").

It was a nightmare for a while.

Who needs states anyway. Should be the same nationwide.

Nathan Richardson
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Sunday, October 05, 2008 - 10:55 am, by: Nathan Richardson (Richtheblack)

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Mike Triggs wrote on Saturday, October 04, 2008 - 10:48 pm:
Who needs states anyway. Should be the same nationwide.

I agree, in QLD when I bought the Soarer, I had a NSW licence, Registered the car in QLD at my Grandparents place no problems.

Glen Muller
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Monday, October 06, 2008 - 04:20 pm, by: Glen Muller (Doom_and_gloom)

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I was allowed to drive the company vehicles at my job in Adelaide on a Victorian licence, as I didn't bother swapping my licence over until my probation period was up at work. Insurance was all OK, so I'd imagine there's no issue with the law there either.

Jason Munro
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Monday, October 06, 2008 - 04:34 pm, by: Jason Munro (Jason_munro)

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yes, but the vehicles were registered in the companies name, not yours ?
that's the big difference here.

Jason.

Maurice Diggler
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Monday, October 06, 2008 - 06:31 pm, by: Maurice Diggler (Mau_rice)

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David Vaughan wrote on Saturday, October 04, 2008 - 08:35 pm:
Why might you imagine a defect is not defectable?

Defects are different in different states, whats considered an illegal mod in NSW isn't necessarily illegal in Vic for example.

David Vaughan
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Monday, October 06, 2008 - 08:22 pm, by: David Vaughan (Davidv)

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Please list the modifications which are illegal in Queensland but legal in Victoria. If anyone knows of any, then we can find out whether Daniel has one or more of those Qld-illegal/Vic-legal modifications and no other modifications which are illegal in either place. Otherwise, his original question is answered by my original reply.

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