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Ben Socratous
Tinkerer
JZZ30 TT

Posts: 27
Reg: 07-2005

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Tuesday, August 02, 2005 - 06:20 pm, by:  Ben Socratous Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hmmm, WTF?!? Why put a nissan engine in a toyota? Would just be as pointless as the gen 3 in a BAGT, or maybe I should buy a ferrari and dump a lambo engine in it?

On the topic of chicks and cars... One of the girls at work conned me into cooking a dinner party for her and some friends, turns out they're all mad import revheads, and possibly have a better vehicular knowledge than me, I think I'm in love!
Joseph Reno
Tinkerer
'91, 2.5GT-T-L JZZ30-ACPZZ 1JZ-GTE

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Tuesday, August 02, 2005 - 06:23 pm, by:  Joseph Reno Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I hate the stretched tyre look.....

Otherwise the car is interesting, not something I would want though. As stated, a 2JZ would be much more appropriate.
Jason Kingsmill
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UZZ31 Soarer V8

Posts: 18
Reg: 07-2005

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Tuesday, August 02, 2005 - 06:30 pm, by:  Jason Kingsmill Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

600kW on stock 2JZ bottom end? 600HP maybe, but 600kW?

That is an INSANE amount of power. It would haveto be one hell of an accurate tune to pull that, or a very "enthusiastic" dyno.

Agree though, that they are a killer of a donk, and fairly well competitive with the RB26.
My opinion?? Leave Toyota powering Toyota.
dragan vidic
Tinkerer
soarer tt

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Tuesday, August 02, 2005 - 06:35 pm, by:  dragan vidic Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

call me crazy but if someone offered me a 10 sec rb26 for my stock 1j id tell him where to go

1j is a forgotten hero as my mate likes to call it, not for me tho
dragan vidic
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soarer tt

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Tuesday, August 02, 2005 - 06:40 pm, by:  dragan vidic Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

C&D, a place where my mate used to work made 402rwkw on a stock 2jz, 30psi, dyno dinamics shootout mode
Jeff Wilkins
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JZZ30 GT-TL

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Tuesday, August 02, 2005 - 07:50 pm, by:  Jeff Wilkins Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Jason, Ive seen vids of yank Supras pulling 700kw on stock internals. Im sure they dont survive long, but they get there.

In fact theres a whole series of vids floating around by some guy with a red Supra that was pushing 900kw. It popped and he rebuilt it with forged internals but he got a bucket load of runs out of it before it died.

From memory there used to be a lot of them on supramovies.com
Gareth Richards
Tinkerer
GTT-L twin turbo auto

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Tuesday, August 02, 2005 - 08:41 pm, by:  Gareth Richards Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Plus ca change ....

This is like the old argument in hot rod mags about using Chevy engines in Ford Model A / B based hot rods. :-)
peter ha
Tinkerer
Soarer TT

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Tuesday, August 02, 2005 - 09:06 pm, by:  peter ha Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

hey besides the point of the engine... is that chick the owner of that soarer???
Cameron Schembri
Newbie
JZZ30 2.5 GTT

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Tuesday, August 02, 2005 - 09:09 pm, by:  Cameron Schembri Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Richard, mate grate looking car. Unfortunatley that Soarer has a bad ticker.

A 2jz is going to far surpass the RB26 mod for mod. Just look how much power a 1JZ & 2JSZ will handle before changing internals compaired to the RB range.
Sorry I have to disagree. The
2JZ-GTE is truly the jap performance grand daddy of them all.
Cihan Aday
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Soarer TT

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Reg: 07-2005

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Tuesday, August 02, 2005 - 09:18 pm, by:  Cihan Aday Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

=) i like ure style camo!

Guys, check out
www.to4r.com for some *interesting* too-jay figures.

I love that site.
Simon Triantafillou
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Soarer Turbo

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Tuesday, August 02, 2005 - 09:49 pm, by:  Simon Triantafillou Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Don't forget that US horsepower figures are higher than figures we achieve down here, so don't get too hyped up if you can't achieve the same figures with same mods.
Ivor Miric
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Camry/Hilux

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Tuesday, August 02, 2005 - 10:06 pm, by:  Ivor Miric Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

like perry said BURN IT
Cihan Aday
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Soarer TT

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Tuesday, August 02, 2005 - 10:15 pm, by:  Cihan Aday Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Simon, they wont vary too much.
If your refering to difference in atmospheric pressure changes etc.

If your saying the atw figures are generous, i dont see why. Maxing out a turbo is maxing out a turbo, regardless of the power you achieve.

They have GT35's pushing 30psi strapped to internally stock 2JZ's with headwork. Thats tramendous. Powerband starts at 5800rpm =)
Richard Cislowski
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Soarer V8 Active and Skyline GTR

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Wednesday, August 03, 2005 - 10:40 am, by:  Richard Cislowski Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


peter ha wrote on Tuesday, August 02, 2005 - 09:06 pm:

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from the limited info i have i don't think she is the owner/driver. not 100% though.

Fair enough on the all the toojay calls. Like I said before they are a hell of a motor and do have 'some' advantages over and RB26, but having been to japan i can tell you that any demo car you look at and any workshop you go to is just about a shrine to RB26 performance. Just the fact that there are so many more RB26 parts available does give them a slight advantage though.

Good thing I didn't post pics of the Supra I saw at Top Secret!!! at least this RB26 was replacing a 1JZ where as the TS one is replacing a perfectly good toojay...but I love it :-)

I must say I'm surprised so many of you don't like it. I certainly commands some respect from me as it's a very nicely built car and would no doubt be very, very quick. Plus it's something different, those things make it a big winner in my books.

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