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Gregg Holden
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Wednesday, June 07, 2006 - 02:16 pm, by:  Gregg Holden (Xzotic) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ok, so I've experienced most of the codes that the ol' Soarer likes to throw up in Japanese from time to time but had a very bizaar situation occur last night...

Cruising home on the freeway from a friends house. I was about 20 mins into the journey with the last 10 minutes on cruise control (varying between 80 and 100kph sections). Nice cool night car running perfectly smooth, all gauges reading normally...

Next minute I get a rude wakeup call with the cruise disengaging and a Jap code thrown up on the meter. I barely get a chance to view the code let alone be able to determine what it was before it vanishes...never to occur again...

How very strange. Given the circumstances, cruising at 100km (on cruise) with little actual car movement you can write off brake fluid level warning issues etc. It is odd in that every other code I have received also stays on for more than 1 second....(*hears twilight zone music in head*)

Perhaps the Japs didn't expect anyone who owned a Soarer would actually stick it on cruise for so long and decided to incorporate a wakeup alarm - as clearly the driver must have fallen asleep...

Anyone else experienced such an odd code event?
Katrina Bruns
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Wednesday, June 07, 2006 - 02:28 pm, by:  Katrina Bruns (Katrina) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have never experienced that event. With my soarer, the codes liked to stay in red and remind me every single time I started the car that there was something wrong. As for using cruise there, the fastest speed marker I ever saw was 60 kph, and otherwise bullet train and mass transportation was majoritly used. The price of petrol was outrageous there.
Nick Petkovic
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Wednesday, June 07, 2006 - 03:39 pm, by:  Nick Petkovic (Naissus96) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

maybe it stayed on for a second because the problem dissapeared. Is that possible?
My car is on cruise for at least 30 min at a time. I went to Wave Rock with it and it was on cruise control for an hour or so and it didn't complain
David Vaughan
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Wednesday, June 07, 2006 - 04:28 pm, by:  David Vaughan (Davidv) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Did you do anything electrical at that point, like indicate, flash lights or turn something on or off? If so, could be the random earth demon. There is no problem having the cruise on. I have run it for a close to two hours without a pause and I am sure others have gone longer. Blaine, perhaps.
Shane Ilich
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Wednesday, June 07, 2006 - 04:37 pm, by:  Shane Ilich (Ferret) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Only thing I can think of is also a touchy electrical connnection, maybe a wheel speed sensor, or something transmission related, being momentarily set off by a stone/droplet of water/random other occurrence.
Callum Finch
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Wednesday, June 07, 2006 - 05:29 pm, by:  Callum Finch (Sigeneat) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Blaine never drove over to you guys David, it was all imagined! ;D

I dont have the luxury of error codes that flash on my dash, so im treading in unknown waters here; but dont error codes stay stored until manually removed? Or as soon as the issue is detected as resolved (ie, all normal) are they deleted?
Gregg Holden
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Wednesday, June 07, 2006 - 06:07 pm, by:  Gregg Holden (Xzotic) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

My comment about the cruise duration was tongue in cheek...

Quite likely an electrical gremlin considering the amount of additional crap I have installed, ripped out etc over the years...

I guess I won't really know unless it happens again! Here's hoping that it doesn't....

Maybe because yesterday's date was 6/6/6 - My Soarer is now possessed! LOL....
David Vaughan
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Wednesday, June 07, 2006 - 06:08 pm, by:  David Vaughan (Davidv) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

SFAIK they stay and should be recoverable, which is dead easy for most codes if you have an EMV car and can be done by counting flashes on other cars.

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...possessed...


If your fuel tank has not expanded then your car should still be OK
Benny Gammelmark
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Thursday, June 08, 2006 - 07:14 am, by:  Benny Gammelmark (Oldfield) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I haven't had that particular problem with cruise but I have had a strange one once.

I was driving in Sydney and using cruise to avoid speeding tickets. At some point I turned off the cruise coming up to some lights but the cruise WOULDN'T TURN OFF. It just kept the speed.
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I used the brakes to limit the speed and the engine started revving harder (wanted to get to the speed that was originally set).

When the lights went green I released the brakes and the car went up to the original speed (with me using the brakes once in a while to avoid running into the back of the car in front).

I left the main street and stopped the car (it was quite scary driving with no throttle control). Turned the car off for a couple of minutes and the problem went away.

I fortunately never saw the problem again.
Dan McColl
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Thursday, June 08, 2006 - 09:03 am, by:  Dan McColl (Hoon) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Check your engine oil level.
Ken Remy
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Thursday, June 08, 2006 - 10:57 am, by:  Ken Remy (Beany85) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Did you by any chance rub your leg up the handbrake and slightly pull it up?
has happened to me before.
Mark Paddick
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Thursday, June 08, 2006 - 04:46 pm, by:  Mark Paddick (Sparks) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have seen a few problems with cruise control and ECUs. It is the engine ECU that's the culprit.
Probably a few dry or cracked solder joints in the ECU; I've not seen it happen after an ECU is resoldered and all the appropriate capacitors changed...
Usually the symptom is cruise control dropping out for no apparent reason.
I would normally head for the cruise computer but I was testing ECUs at the time and was able to confirm that it was the ECU rather than the cruise computer which was good news to me as it wasn't my ECU in the car at the time.
Susan Rutch
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Thursday, June 08, 2006 - 06:29 pm, by:  Susan Rutch (Itsjustme) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I had the same thing happen to me. Matt was driving at the time and we had the cruise on for maybe an hour and it just threw up a warning and dropped the cruise out. We did the same as Neil, reset and forgot about it. But now my cruise is a little lurchy so I dont tend to use it often.
Will Adams
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Thursday, June 08, 2006 - 07:12 pm, by:  Will Adams (Draco) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I had one similar experience. Had been cruising (albeit in a 60 zone) and turned the cruise control on. Got a ding on the dash, and my cruise light on the dash flashed and dropped off. Had to turn the car off and then on, never bugged me again since.
Ben Socratous
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Thursday, June 08, 2006 - 08:08 pm, by:  Ben Socratous (Socrates) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Benny Gammelmark wrote on Thursday, June 08, 2006 - 07:14 am:

At some point I turned off the cruise coming up to some lights but the cruise WOULDN'T TURN OFF. It just kept the speed




I had the same issue a few months back, coming up behind a truck parked at the lights, I'm still doing 80kph and the damn thing didn't turn off! After I nearly shat myself, ended up just turning the engine off, put it into neutral and eased on the brakes. Started it up again and the problem never came back, possessed, maybe!

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