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Caillin Linehan
Newbie
wa
tt
Posts: 1
Reg: 09-2007
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hay all
I recently bought some turbos from the For Sale section that were advertised as rebuilt and steel wheeled. I bought them off Morgan Cross Everything seemed fine until after the turbos arrived and took them to be inspected by a turbo place in Perth, where I was told they had stock ceramic wheels and had not been rebuilt. This was a big surprise to me of course, because morgan
had been very honest and helpful about the condition of the turbos and every thing else he said was spot on except for this.
Just to make sure, I got a second opinion from Turboteck which backed up what was now obvious. Throughout all this morgan stayed in contact and sounded as surprised as me. He told me that he bought the turbos in good faith off another site member who I will not name.
morgan was more than happy to give me a full refund as soon as he could and I've been extremely happy with everything that he's done. It seems that he was ripped off by the member who sold him the turbos originally! , I've no doubt that what he's saying is the truth. Just thought I'd let everyone know what the go is if he tries to get some money back on these . i did not name the guy who sold them to him, but i have been told, i just thought 3rd hand info was not a good idea
cheers |
Luke Nieuwhof
Goo Roo
WA
Soarer TT
Posts: 2494
Reg: 07-2005
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Onya Morgan...I vote name and shame... |
Brian Timms
DieHard
New South Wales
TT Soarer Goodness.
Posts: 797
Reg: 12-2006
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Name and Shame the guy that caused the issue!!!!
B. |
Jeff Smith
Goo Roo
NSW
GT30/37r Single T
Posts: 1701
Reg: 07-2005
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Name and shame is a good idea.But the naming and shaming should be left to the one that got ripped off in the first place.For a first post it is a ripper and a good way to start trouble.MORGAN CROSS is a respected member and I am surtin there was no ill intent with this sale.Prime example he is offering the cash back.If I was Morgan I would be p1ssed. |
Jeff Smith
Goo Roo
NSW
GT30/37r Single T
Posts: 1702
Reg: 07-2005
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Sad to say  on a sad note as this. |
Caillin Linehan
Newbie
wa
tt
Posts: 2
Reg: 09-2007
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cheers for the welcome mate
not a good way to start ! morgan has been really good that's why i wonted to post up
It looks like he has been done over and yer he should be pissed.
yer morgan should let every one know who it is and what the go is but it's not my place. |
Luke Nieuwhof
Goo Roo
WA
Soarer TT
Posts: 2496
Reg: 07-2005
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Jeff Smith wrote on Thursday, November 29, 2007 - 10:01 pm:Name and shame is a good idea.But the naming and shaming should be left to the one that got ripped off in the first place.For a first post it is a ripper and a good way to start trouble.MORGAN CROSS is a respected member and I am surtin there was no ill intent with this sale.Prime example he is offering the cash back.If I was Morgan I would be p1ssed.
Jeff, Caillin has said Morgan has been really good - it's no reflection on Morgan at all.
Just the other tool who sold the stuff to Morgan first. |
Dave Billings
DieHard
Louisiana
SC 300, 2JZE, 5 Speed
Posts: 803
Reg: 06-2007
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Caillin! Don't sweat the petty sh*t, just pet the sweaty sh*t!! Cheers  |
Daniel Clarke
Goo Roo
NSW
TT 2.5L 6 cylinder
Posts: 2673
Reg: 03-2006
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Man, MOrgan didnt try and rip you off. He was selling them in good faith like he bought them off another memeber....
If your going to Name and SHame him ( which he has done the right thing and taken them back to resell them himself).. Then you SHOULD name the bastard who RIPPED MORGS off a couple of years ago too... I know who REALLY is the dodgy one out of all this and i can assure you... ITS not MOrgan!
Welcome to the club dude and see ya round the forums more Oh, and Good luck with your ride. |
Scott Ferguson
DieHard
Alberta
Soarer GTT-L
Posts: 878
Reg: 07-2006
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Daniel, Caillin has made that very clear, Not blaming Morgan at all just informing people of the situation! |
Jeff Smith
Goo Roo
NSW
GT30/37r Single T
Posts: 1703
Reg: 07-2005
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Caillin Linehan wrote on Thursday, November 29, 2007 - 08:19 pm:Just thought I'd let everyone know what the go is if he tries to get some money back on these .
Luke and Scott! I have no dought that Caillin is not blaming Morgan for this.It's just with the above comment brings morgan into it. |
Luke Nieuwhof
Goo Roo
WA
Soarer TT
Posts: 2497
Reg: 07-2005
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Daniel Clarke wrote on Friday, November 30, 2007 - 04:37 am:Man, MOrgan didnt try and rip you off. He was selling them in good faith like he bought them off another memeber....
Same thing as I said to Jeff, Caillin is praising Morgan.
Jeff Smith wrote on Friday, November 30, 2007 - 06:36 am:It's just with the above comment brings morgan into it.
If anything it has increased my respect for Morgan in that case because of how he helped Caillin, so I don't see anything wrong with having his name there? |
Callum Finch
Goo Roo
WA
Soarer TT & Corolla
Posts: 3634
Reg: 09-2005
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IT WAS MEEEEE!!!
</jim_carey_in_"liar_liar"> |
Christian Zimmer
TryHard
Victoria
TT
Posts: 437
Reg: 09-2006
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You owe it to the club to name the guy who sold them to Morgan.
What if more people buy from him and get ripped off. I for one would like to think I can come to this club and trust my fellow members. That is why a lot of members would be happy to pay a slight premium for cars of parts for sale in this club, because we trust that they are good and that the people selling are honest.
There are too many crooks already in the world, I dont want to fear the club now as well.
If we name the people that are doing dodgies, it might make some people think twice about ripping others off. |
Lew Radbourn
Trader
Queensland / Gold coast
jzs147 93 TT / uzz30 93'/ 2 X uzz31 92' s
Posts: 2219
Reg: 07-2005
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Caillin;
welcome mate.
Sorry to hear about the above.
Morg's it is time to Name the person that ripped you off.
Remember when Reepa got ripped with his diff centre.
he named the person so we all can keep clear of any thing he sells.
Morgs help us all out and name the prick. |
Paul Fitzsimmons
TryHard
nsw
12/96 vvti single
Posts: 162
Reg: 08-2005
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Before we hang the seller he/she could of been in the same position as Morgan and been blissfully unaware. |
Daniel Clarke
Goo Roo
NSW
TT 2.5L 6 cylinder
Posts: 2674
Reg: 03-2006
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Im pretty sure i remember it being Khalid that sold them to Morgan. And he told Morgan that they were built by ATS . |
Daniel Czechowski
Goo Roo
Western Australia
Soarer GT-T (sold  ) & IS300 Sports Luxury
Posts: 3213
Reg: 07-2005
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Name and shame!!! Name and shame!!! Name and shame!!!
We should make things like this known to people, if there is a negative experience. Similarly if there's a positive experience, such as Morgan's excellent handling of this situation. |
Christian Zimmer
TryHard
Victoria
TT
Posts: 438
Reg: 09-2006
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No offence to Khalid....because I find him a nice guy to deal with....but IF he did sell them to Morgan....I'm sure he would have enough knowledge to know if they had been re-built with steelies or not.
Bad luck Morgan....handled the situation very well though. Lots of respect your way. |
Jeff Smith
Goo Roo
NSW
GT30/37r Single T
Posts: 1706
Reg: 07-2005
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Luke Nieuwhof wrote on Friday, November 30, 2007 - 08:31 am:If anything it has increased my respect for Morgan in that case because of how he helped Caillin, so I don't see anything wrong with having his name there?
I Agree with what you say! And also respect Morgan more for his effort to fix this problem.
Caillin Linehan wrote on Thursday, November 29, 2007 - 08:19 pm:Just thought I'd let everyone know what the go is if he tries to get some money back on these
I light of this luke! It's not his name.You read me wrong on what I ment, I was wondering if he ment Morgan trying to get his money back by attempting to sell them to someone.I dought knowing now that they ain't steel wheel rebuilds that morgan would try this.
What I would like too see the other side of the story from the one who did this and why tarnish a great soarer comunity.....We don't need this sh1t! Nor the members that intend to rip off!
Name and shame Is the only way to stop this,As time goe's on people like this will think twice. |
Caillin Linehan
Newbie
wa
tt
Posts: 4
Reg: 09-2007
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what i ment was if morgan chases up who he brought them off !i just wonted to put it out there that i know what has happened and i agree with what morgan has said
i am shore morgan did not know!
i very much dought that morgan would sell them on like that, i don't know him much at all, but from what i have experienced so far it seems very unlikely |
Daniel Clarke
Goo Roo
NSW
TT 2.5L 6 cylinder
Posts: 2677
Reg: 03-2006
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MOrgs has re advertised them as normal turbos and looks like h has a prospective buyer already
I think he has handled it pretty well... Although the other night on the phone, he was struggling ... |
Jeff Smith
Goo Roo
NSW
GT30/37r Single T
Posts: 1707
Reg: 07-2005
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Cheer's Caillin! Glad two members Have done the wright thing.....
A big "GOOD ON YAH" to Morg's ..... Respect mate!
I feel like we share something in common now and that's,We both have been ripped off,I with the ebay steel wheels and you Morg's with rebuilds.
I have named and shamed with Youtube,Forum threads and emails to those that had freshly bought them from the guy on ebay. |
Alen Sadikovic
TryHard
VIC
Soarer GTT
Posts: 356
Reg: 10-2006
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Christian Zimmer wrote on Friday, November 30, 2007 - 08:54 am:You owe it to the club to name the guy who sold them to Morgan.
i think by now morgan would of read this thread, and if he wanted to tell us who ripped him off. he would of by now.
he hasnt, so obviously he doesnt want to start things, i would say drop trying to find out who sold the originally. |
Daniel Clarke
Goo Roo
NSW
TT 2.5L 6 cylinder
Posts: 2680
Reg: 03-2006
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I think i Mentioned it already Alen... |
Lew Radbourn
Trader
Queensland / Gold coast
jzs147 93 TT / uzz30 93'/ 2 X uzz31 92' s
Posts: 2220
Reg: 07-2005
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Daniel;
Mate when you post up a name make sure you are right .
Don't THINK be sure.
Not having a go at you it may be just a wrong choice of word.
But in saying that.
Guys
Get intouch with your cars.
Be 100% sure of what you have and or what you are selling.
I have known Morgs for a couple of years now and as every body has stated before he is an honest guy
BUT morgs with your knowledge of these cars this realy suprises me that you took some one elses word on what you have
Be it a close mate that sold you these turbos or not.
if it was a close friend then forget about any knowledge he may think he has ,cause he knows jack SH*T.
there is one big difference in the way the exhaust wheels look between ceramic and steel.
If it was Kahlid I can understand the confusion
he sold me some injectors that were the wrong ones.
GUYS
if in doubt shout.
this is what this forum is all about
helping each other so this kind of thing doesn't happen. |
Daniel Clarke
Goo Roo
NSW
TT 2.5L 6 cylinder
Posts: 2687
Reg: 03-2006
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Ok, i understand Lew. I knew who it was but wasnt sure how to put it!
Morgan told me it WAS khalid. |
Maurice Diggler
Goo Roo
Victoria
TR44HF
Posts: 1631
Reg: 06-2006
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Hey guys, I don't want to start a sh1t-fight with everyone/khalid and there is no real evidence to prove exactly what happened so I don't think it's right to start ripping sh1t on him.
Story goes I bought the turbos off Khalid and he told me he bought them directly from ATS as already rebuilt steel hi-flowed set. When I picked them up he put a magnet to the wheel and he told me it stuck, I put them on my car and they were laggier, then on the dyno it made 10-20rwkw clear of everyone else with stock turbos, my mechanic looked at em and said they're steel definately so I just took his word, khalids and my own findings that they were what was said.
They were still healthy, I ripped them off my car for the single conversion and posted them off to Caillin, he got them checked by two places and told they were totally stock and not steel, I speak to Khalid and tell him and Khalid says "They ARE steel, he must have swapped the centres and he is ripping you off" and me being the middle man have no way of proving whether that is true or not or if I was completely ripped knowingly or unknowingly by Khalid.
It's a super sh1tty situation that no one wants to be in just before christmas so if anyone wants come healthy CERAMIC turbos, MT Semi slicks or a 3" intake pipe please PM me haha, hopefully I can recover financially in time for chrissy 
PS - I guess one way to find out if they ARE from ATS or not is to call Max who used to work at ATS but now trades under a different name, go back thru his records and see if he EVER did any turbos for Khalid, if not then I guess we have our answer. |
Caillin Linehan
Newbie
wa
tt
Posts: 5
Reg: 09-2007
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if khalid is saying i stole the steel centers that is crazy!! why would i do that are they even worth anything on there own ?
can you put ceramic wheels back in ?
my car needs new turbos that is all! i just wonted to get it fixed, this is all getting a bit complicated |
Alen Sadikovic
TryHard
VIC
Soarer GTT
Posts: 358
Reg: 10-2006
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Daniel Clarke wrote on Friday, November 30, 2007 - 07:11 pm:I think i Mentioned it already Alen...
probably, i cbf reading it lol |
Cihan Aday
Moderator
www.etuner.com.au
JZZ30
Posts: 2292
Reg: 07-2005
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Morgs as i said to you earlier, a magnet isn't necessarily going to 'stick' to a metal turbine wheel in the first place. They aren't always that magnetic. Even if the turbine is ceramic/non-magnetic, the turbine housing is CAST IRON and magnets are easily attracted to it, even from a few cm away. It can seem like its metal.
Any turbo shop will look at the turbo and say 'that is factory ceramic' when they see the main shaft and turbine wheel are one piece - there is no end nut to unscrew. They won't go near a magnet. |
Maurice Diggler
Goo Roo
Victoria
TR44HF
Posts: 1632
Reg: 06-2006
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Caillin Linehan wrote on Saturday, December 01, 2007 - 07:17 pm:if khalid is saying i stole the steel centers that is crazy!! why would i do that are they even worth anything on there own ?
can you put ceramic wheels back in ?
my car needs new turbos that is all! i just wonted to get it fixed, this is all getting a bit complicated
I think it's very very far fetched too, Khalid isn't saying anything so I don't know what to make of that. |
Lew Radbourn
Trader
Queensland / Gold coast
jzs147 93 TT / uzz30 93'/ 2 X uzz31 92' s
Posts: 2222
Reg: 07-2005
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Morgs;
Have you got the turbos back?
I will be in Melbourne thursday some time i would like to catch up
The difference between the two turbos;
ceramic;
a small file will not mark the wheel
and the nut in the middle actualy has a very small nut which looks like the inside of a multi position socket.
steel wheels;
you can actualy file it. as it is steel
the centre nut actualy looks like a 6 sided nut. |
James Johnson
DieHard
Victoria
JZZ30
Posts: 756
Reg: 07-2005
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well hey they are some pretty wickid turbos to last 17psi of boost for 2 years or so!! i wouldn't mind buying them if i had some cash!
but yeh this whole thing has surprised me |
Maurice Diggler
Goo Roo
Victoria
TR44HF
Posts: 1635
Reg: 06-2006
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Lew Radbourn wrote on Sunday, December 02, 2007 - 07:38 pm:Morgs;
Have you got the turbos back?
I will be in Melbourne thursday some time i would like to catch up
I haven't got them back yet but I should have them by Thursday. Where abouts will you be staying in Melb, I will be available after 6pm on Thursday.
My old phone is rooted, I got a new number now, whats your number so I can give you a ring.
Cheers. |
Rob Andreacchio
Goo Roo
Victoria
Posts: 3048
Reg: 01-2005
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send it my way too knackers... |
Maurice Diggler
Goo Roo
Victoria
TR44HF
Posts: 1636
Reg: 06-2006
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I got your number off Fizzy b1tch and will ring you tomorrow Reepa. |
Joseph D'Agostino
Tinkerer
Australia says no to rice!
JZZ30
Posts: 77
Reg: 11-2006
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You might be in luck Morgs.
Khalid aka Cara is selling a Emanage Ultimate
https://soarercentral.com/sc-forum/messages/292/219965.html?1196769561
He might refund some $$$ |
Maurice Diggler
Goo Roo
Victoria
TR44HF
Posts: 1643
Reg: 06-2006
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Doubtful when he hasn't made any contact VIA either account or made any kind of an effort to get ahold of me. I have learned my lesson, don't trust anyone! |
Cara Joseph
TryHard
victoria
skyline T
Posts: 401
Reg: 04-2007
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hey i just saw this thread.. hmm interesting i was more than happy to assist with this whole concern i even offered maurice to give my number to whom ever he sold the turbos too..
I even spoke to you maurice bout this situation and what we did to make sure they were steel wheel, the time you waited and what we did at james house to make sure they were steel wheel i told you that i was not sure and wont say they were hi flowed but you made that assumption..
Why would i make more effort to contact you i thought all this was sorted after i didnt hear from you..
As you said they must of been some damn good ceramic wheel to last this long and make that much power on 20psi (1.5years), which in my experience is damn well impossible, specially the amount of drags and dyno runs you have done..
To top things off the mechanic you mentioned that put them on even said they were steel wheels which is a highly reputable mechanic that alot of the knowns use on this forum building engines and pritty much anything toyota he knows backwards.
So it kinda makes me think something shonky has gone onn since the sale of the turbos and transition process.. |
Maurice Diggler
Goo Roo
Victoria
TR44HF
Posts: 1644
Reg: 06-2006
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Cara Joseph wrote on Wednesday, December 05, 2007 - 09:49 am:the time you waited and what we did at james house to make sure they were steel wheel i told you that i was not sure and wont say they were
Lets not bullsh1t here, you originally told me (On the cruise day at Rob Haydens property) that they were the exact same as Reepa's roller bearing ones, steel wheeled the whole lot. You told me that you blew your stock turbos, and you went to ATS to get yours rebuilt and ATS had these ones sitting there ready to go, so you bought them. Then you tell me they're not roller bearing, and that they might not be highflow but they're definately steel. Now, did you get the turbos from ATS like you told me or were they just the standard ones you ripped off your car when you went single, was it an attempt to make back some money after the single conversion?
If Max was to go back through his paperwork would he have records of the work he did for you or didn't he do any?
Also, at the time I bought the turbos off you, I was almost brand new on the Soarer scene, you had had your car for ages at that stage and knew what was going on, you were in the middle of a single conversion so you surely knew.
Basically, what you told me went from Roller bearing whiz bang ones "The same as what Reepa has got" to totally stock ceramic turbos and I'm out of pocket right before Christmas because of it. |
Rob Andreacchio
Goo Roo
Victoria
Posts: 3060
Reg: 01-2005
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Maurice Diggler wrote on Wednesday, December 05, 2007 - 05:16 pm:you originally told me (On the cruise day at Rob Haydens property) that they were the exact same as Reepa's roller bearing ones, steel wheeled the whole lot.
Not really wanting to get involved here, but Khalid, you told me the same thing on that day.
And as I told you that same day, I didn't believe it, as Max had not build any of the rollers before my set & the other he was doing at the same time.
As for them coming from ATS, it would be unfair to make a claim or judgement here as I never saw them.
Just trying to provide all facts so that perhaps a resolution can be had... |
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