Thursday, January 31, 2008 - 04:43 pm, by: Glen Muller(Doom_and_gloom)
... is what you need to be to un-do an oil filter fitted by Crossover Cars!!!
BY GOD that thing was on tight... first I couldn't get in through the top for all the hoses and crap in the way, so I had to unscrew the belly pan and go in from underneath. Then:
- I had about 10 ants decide to make my hair their new home. Great.
- I knocked the drip tray and spilled 2 litres of hot oil on the ground and my arm. Ouch.
- The freakin oil filter wouldn't budge, so I had to settle for a screwdriver and a hammer. Punch a hole through, turn, remove screwdriver. Repeat x 4. By then, your arm is covered in oil!
Conclusion: please, for the love of everything Holy, do not use superhuman strength to screw in an oil filter!!! Unless of course, you're selling the car and want to mess with the new owner's head... muahaha!
Friday, February 01, 2008 - 09:18 am, by: Luke Burt(Burt)
Do it properly, and you won't have a problem. Jack it up, put it on stands, sheet of cardboard underneath you, two drain pans one to leave under the sump the other for the oil filter. Avoid doing it while the oil is hot enough to burn you, if you really want to get most of the old stuff out, drop a clean litre of oil down the top while your draining, will help push a bit more oil out. Use a filter wrench, always ALWAYS rub a small film of oil on the rubber seal before fitting a new filter, then do it up hand tight, plus a half turn, or full turn if you like with the wrench.
Friday, February 01, 2008 - 01:48 pm, by: Glen Muller(Doom_and_gloom)
I know I need to get stands of some description, but I still wouldn't get underneath the car in my backyard. I've got no concrete or anything firm to do it on... if we haven't moved out of this dump before the next service I might take a drive to Ballarat to steal the old man's kick arse workshop.
Yesterday was more of an emergency job - the first opportunity where I had the cash to get all the stuff and the time to do it. I was 600km overdue already... so it was pretty urgent. I don't like to mess around with older engines.
Seriously though, I've never encountered an oil filter that was done up so damn tight! The filter wrench just spun around and took paint off the filter, no matter how hard I did it up. The one I have was made by the old man and works better than a lot of store-bought jobs, since the handle is about 3 inches longer than most - if anyone is interested I can ask him how he made it and post a tutorial.
Friday, February 01, 2008 - 03:53 pm, by: Steven Anderson(Cusscuss)
i think the point is they are not supposed to be tight.
If done correctly a filter should be a hand tight job. Most of them have instructions something along the line of 'turn until it starts to grip and then turn another 3/4 of a turn' and no more.
99% of mechanics are dodgy and just want in and out of there as quick as possible.
Friday, February 01, 2008 - 04:05 pm, by: Peter Nitschke(Pen)
I have never had that problem with cars serviced by mechanics, so I would strenuously deny that 99% figure, unless you specifically go to el-crappo-cheepy mechanics.
I rely on mechanics to do the things that I can't do - which is a lot, and have nothing but respect for their skills and knowledge.
Any industry has some lousy operators, but to tar 99% of them is extreme exaggeration.
Dave Billings Goo Roo Louisiana SC 300, 2JZE, 5 Speed
On a V8 Soarer it should be easy to do (isn't the filter at the bottom of the engine?!) on a 1J the damn filter is on the side of block! And I'm a big kid, so I just get my mechanic to do it because I really can't be arsed lol
Sunday, February 03, 2008 - 12:56 pm, by: Glen Muller(Doom_and_gloom)
I prefer to do stuff myself so I know who to blame, and yes it's at the bottom of the engine. I'd imagine the whole deal is heaps easier for a mechanic with a mechanical hoist.
Peter- there was plenty of room the first time I did it since I had a nice concrete floor to play with, but the dirt out in my yard is a little crappy. I would have done the 130km to my olds' place but when you're 600km overdue for a service, you're 600km overdue!
Also: advantage of borrowing the old man's workshop - usually he comes along and has a play, and you slowly back off to the beer fridge in the corner and let him go. He doesn't usually realise you've left until the job is almost done, and you're sitting in a chair with four empty stubbies beside you!