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Aaron Holland
Tinkerer
Tasmania
GTT

Posts: 51
Reg: 04-2007

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Monday, June 09, 2008 - 09:21 pm, by:  Aaron Holland (Aholland) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

So recently I blew up one of my turbos. I was given the option to rebuild it for a couple of grand, but I opted to go big single.
To anyone considering it, I strongly advise against it, unless you have a huge bucket of money to throw away (This build cost me $14k all up :-()
The car was also out of action for over 3 months, getting sent the wrong manifold, and then all sorts of issues in fitting and custom fabrication.

Here's some pics of the end result

http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/6665/turbo002yt6.jpg
http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/3653/turbo003ip8.jpg

I was bit disappointed with the final kw figure (245kw at 16psi) since it was making 239kw on the high flowed stock turbos, but I imagine there is more potential there now.

From the outside, the car looks stock as a rock. So it's quite the sleeper :-)

Here's a list of the current mods:

PowerFC ECU
Apexi AVC-R Boost controller
Garrett GT30/40 turbo
48mm Turbosmart waste gate
Turbosmart blow off valve
Front mount intercooler
Walbro 700HP fuel pump (noisy!) :-)
Rebuilt Torsen LSD
HKS adjustable inlet camshaft gear
Stainless manifold
Stainless custom dump
Rampod air filter
2JZ injectors
Rebuilt standard clutch
Manual conversion
Aftermarket exhaust, 2 1/2 inch

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Turbo beanie
Heat shield for air filter
Bigger injectors
Coil-overs
Bigger exhaust?
David Grab
TryHard
SA
T78

Posts: 218
Reg: 01-2008

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Monday, June 09, 2008 - 09:52 pm, by:  David Grab (Blastedbyasoarer) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

How in the hell did this build up cost you $14K? You could get a whole lot more kw's with a lot less money
Shane McInnes
Goo Roo
NSW
JZZ30 GT-TL Manual

Posts: 1304
Reg: 07-2005

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Tuesday, June 10, 2008 - 09:17 am, by:  Shane McInnes (Soarin_tt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

If he did the Manual conversion at the same time then it would have come close to that much. As i know with my setup lol.

Id boost it abit more mate, Boost it to atleast 20 - 22psi and see what sorta numbers you make then, You should be able to easily get around 260-270rwkw with that setup.
Kyle Wathen
DieHard
Vic
GTTL

Posts: 532
Reg: 02-2007

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Tuesday, June 10, 2008 - 11:07 am, by:  Kyle Wathen (Cspot) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


David Grab wrote on Monday, June 09, 2008 - 09:52 pm:

How in the hell did this build up cost you $14K? You could get a whole lot more kw's with a lot less money




Easy assuming 'build up' means all the mods he's listed.

Manual Conversion ~$5k
Torsen LSD ~$1.1k
Power FC ~$1.5k

The add the turbo kit and other mods, it could easily come to $14k.
Aaron Holland
Tinkerer
Tasmania
GTT

Posts: 52
Reg: 04-2007

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Tuesday, June 10, 2008 - 12:42 pm, by:  Aaron Holland (Aholland) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The breakdown is 8.5k in parts (3.8k for the turbo kit alone
http://www.aseturbo.com/html/supra_turbo_kits.html, and yes I could have got a better deal than that) and 5.5k in labour. (ok so not 14k :-))
So, stating the obvious, if you are capable of doing everything yourself you can save a truck load of money
Benjamin Burgess
Goo Roo
NSW
Toyota Corolla Conquest

Posts: 1875
Reg: 07-2005

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Tuesday, June 10, 2008 - 02:27 pm, by:  Benjamin Burgess (Jampac) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Should have brought my turbo kit Aaron.
Aaron Holland
Tinkerer
Tasmania
GTT

Posts: 53
Reg: 04-2007

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Tuesday, June 10, 2008 - 03:05 pm, by:  Aaron Holland (Aholland) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yes, I know :-)
Shame about the timing though, I'd already bought this other one when you offered me yours.
Benjamin Burgess
Goo Roo
NSW
Toyota Corolla Conquest

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Tuesday, June 10, 2008 - 04:06 pm, by:  Benjamin Burgess (Jampac) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Timing however was good for me. I got 3700 for it in the end.
David Grab
TryHard
SA
T78

Posts: 227
Reg: 01-2008

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Tuesday, June 10, 2008 - 08:13 pm, by:  David Grab (Blastedbyasoarer) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ture that the cost would be around the price with a manual conversion but it doesnt mention it in the parts list.

So Aaron did the total cost include a manual conversion? If so that thats a not so bad figure to pay but if not them i still stand by what i said.
Charlie Ters
TryHard
nsw
TT gone single :-)

Posts: 309
Reg: 01-2007

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Tuesday, June 10, 2008 - 08:34 pm, by:  Charlie Ters (Ul05st) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

yep...... i also know how it feels to see all this money gone :-( my car has costed me over 13k easliy to date..... and i dont even got a garett turbo or injectors (but i do got the beanie and exhaust )

look at the bright side, where the twin boys are maxing there turbos and preying every run a wheel doesnt fall off @ 260rwkw (your turbo now wont even wake up), youll be aiming for the 300rwkw





Thats my only excuse i use on my-self as i keep spending money :-( (the dream of a 2jzgte supra is slowly fading.....)
Aaron Holland
Tinkerer
Tasmania
GTT

Posts: 54
Reg: 04-2007

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Tuesday, June 10, 2008 - 09:49 pm, by:  Aaron Holland (Aholland) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Nope, no manual conversion. Just a lot of cleanup, fabrication and some tuning, but yeah, still very expensive. It's probably the most expensive place in town and I knew that when I took it there, but I also know they are damn good and I wouldn't come out with any nasty surprises a couple of weeks down the track. (Just one big nasty surprise up front :-))

Good point Charlie, the stock twins were obviously busting their gut to give 239kw, the new turbo probably isn't even breaking a sweat. I'm sure I could probably boost it more, but I am too scared to, after what I did to one of the old turbos :-)
Daniel Clarke
Goo Roo
NSW
TT 2.5L 6 cylinder

Posts: 3573
Reg: 03-2006

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Tuesday, June 10, 2008 - 10:12 pm, by:  Daniel Clarke (Dieseltrain) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Power doesnt always = acceleration :-)

But Yeah Adam, dont be disheartened, your setup has " potential " :-) UNleash the fury within!
Christian Molenda
DieHard
QLD
T

Posts: 715
Reg: 07-2005

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Wednesday, June 11, 2008 - 06:49 am, by:  Christian Molenda (Christof) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Turn that boost up!

these turbo's arent even in their efficiency map at that boost level. they are a ball bearing unit made for lots more boost and power!
Aaron Casey
DieHard
nsw
'94 jzz30 gttl, 2 mini's one supercharged :-)

Posts: 670
Reg: 08-2005

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Wednesday, June 11, 2008 - 10:20 pm, by:  Aaron Casey (Blownminiturbo) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

yeah way more potential with this setup.. how does the boost come on and bout what rpm? cause i am swapping to one of these for better response and peace of mind having genuine garrett. yeah the efficiency of these turbo's start at 18psi.. try for 20-22 see how you go. should crack the 300rwkw

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