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Tom James
Newbie
Victoria
Non Turbo

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Tuesday, April 21, 2009 - 05:15 pm, by:  Tom James (Tj1990) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

hey guys i am just wondering is it easy to turbo a non turbo Soarer?

since if i drive a turbo / v8 car at my age i am criminal scum in the eye of the law.

has anyone here done this to a non turbo Soarer or come across someone who has?

and finally would it be more powerful than a regular TT since the non turbo motor is a 3 lt ?

any help with this would be much aprechiated

or should i just forget about it and buy a TT in a few years
Ali Saeed
TryHard
WA
V8 Limited

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Tuesday, April 21, 2009 - 05:39 pm, by:  Ali Saeed (Ali) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

the 3.0l NA soarer is a 2jz-ge which is the baby non turbo supra engine. it has LOTS of modification potential. go for it and when youre of your p's put a huge turbo on it :-) and if its vvti, even better :-)
David Tra
DieHard
qld
TT

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Tuesday, April 21, 2009 - 06:03 pm, by:  David Tra (Bookie) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Remember you will need to rebuild the motor to suit a turbo.

Looking at the prices of a TT soarer. If it were me, id just buy a TT soarer. That way you dont need to fuss about forgies, lower compression etc etc.

While on your P's focusing on learning how to drive. All that unspent money on mods can go towards a TT supra or whatever else tickles your fancy.
Daniel Clarke
Goo Roo
NSW
TT 2.5L 6 cylinder

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Tuesday, April 21, 2009 - 06:05 pm, by:  Daniel Clarke (Dieseltrain) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

NOt worth it champ . You have to engineer it when you turbo it down the track. And conversions are never the same as a genuine unit.

My Advice is, Enjoy the car you have, Save all your cash int he meantime, then when you get off your P's Sell up and buy a nice turbo model .
Aaron Mead
Goo Roo
NT
Celsior 1UZ-FE Mines, JZZ30 1.5JZ-GTE To4z

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Tuesday, April 21, 2009 - 06:05 pm, by:  Aaron Mead (Aaron) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

No point trying to extract more power from the GE motor. For the price, you'd be better off buying a TT soarer an dgoing from there: Better everything to start with.

Unless you plan on doing a complete 2JZ-GTE swap.
Tom James
Newbie
Victoria
Non Turbo

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Tuesday, April 21, 2009 - 06:12 pm, by:  Tom James (Tj1990) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

so how much would i be looking at to rebuild the motor to suit a turbo?
Mike Beck
Goo Roo
New Zealand
Soarer Limited UZZ31 V8

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Tuesday, April 21, 2009 - 07:24 pm, by:  Mike Beck (Gold_40gt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

As Daniel says

"My Advice is, Enjoy the car you have, Save all your cash int he meantime, then when you get off your P's Sell up and buy a nice turbo model"

Take that advice Tom.

Ive had a 3.0GT like what you had but they will never be fast if you throw money at them unless you turbo it or swap a turbo motor into it. Your looking at around $3000 or so for both jobs minimum to get it done. Problem is it would void your P plate license being more powerful then.

Just enjoy it, save your money and get a quicker one when you can afford it and legally can.

3.0GT's are still fun, simple and nothing to go wrong.
Rob Rojo
Goo Roo
NSW
Soarer TT

Posts: 1972
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Tuesday, April 21, 2009 - 08:09 pm, by:  Rob Rojo (Rob_tt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

There are a few 2jzge NA-T making around 400rwhp on the stock internals.
There is a complete kit on the supra forum at the moment,
http://www.supraforums.com.au/forum/showthread.php?t=50806
You could go different and supercharge it.
Damian Ware
DieHard
Victoria
UZZ32

Posts: 900
Reg: 10-2005

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Tuesday, April 21, 2009 - 09:23 pm, by:  Damian Ware (Frozenpod) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Heaps of guys in the US add turbos to the 2JZGE, they never had the option of the 1jzgte with the SC300.

A nice single setup would be great running suitable boost the extra 0.5lt and higher comps will be ultra responsive.
Aaron Casey
DieHard
nsw
'94 jzz30 gttl, 2 mini's one supercharged :-)

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Tuesday, April 21, 2009 - 09:44 pm, by:  Aaron Casey (Blownminiturbo) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

if you really want the soarer get the 2j non turbo then save your pennies do up the looks and all that then when you get off your p's drop a 2jzgte in and then you will have the soarer with looks then also the go..
David Tra
DieHard
qld
TT

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Tuesday, April 21, 2009 - 10:39 pm, by:  David Tra (Bookie) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Makes me wonder why the guy is selling the kit and opting for a 2jzgte.

Like what you said earlier, Buy a TT in a few years.

You should be able to sell your current one for 10k in a few years? being P plater friendly?
Callum Finch
Goo Roo
WA
Soarer TT & Corolla

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Wednesday, April 22, 2009 - 06:39 am, by:  Callum Finch (Sigeneat) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

MY TURN FOR AN OPINION!

I say give the middle finger to the jzz31, not because i think they are crap (you can find some very pretty cars of this ilk) but because you are already talking about wanting to mod it.

I am against the idea of getting a jzz31 now, then selling it and getting a uzz/jzz30 because you will have to spend money to keep the jzz31 going now... then spend money to keep your new one going later.

If you are keen on getting a Soarer and you are keen on modding it and going PSSTSSHHHH then you should go out and get yourself a crummy little Celica (not saying Celicas are crummy, but you should get a crummy one) to piss fart around in until you are legally able to drive a more common Soarer... then get the Soarer of your dreaaaamssss.

Just dont put a god damn Milo tin on the Celica for goodness sake!
David Henderson
Tinkerer
Nsw
TT

Posts: 79
Reg: 08-2007

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Wednesday, April 22, 2009 - 10:58 am, by:  David Henderson (Hendo) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

otomoto do a kit for the 2jz-ge using a KKR 380 or 480, i've seen a dyno sheet with 240kw @ the wheels using the kit and minimal other mods...
Bobby Green
TryHard
QLD
TT

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Reg: 09-2005

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Wednesday, April 22, 2009 - 11:09 am, by:  Bobby Green (Nash) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

My 2 cents: No. Enjoy the car as a quiet, reliable and nice daily. It will need extensive modification to be fast which means $$$. When you're off your P's and if you want a modified car, buy one that has done a lot of work already, and finish it off to your taste. You will save a lot of money that way and still get your performance. One of my mates poured over $160,000 in his supra, made over 1100rwhp, and then ended up selling for $30,000 a few months later. If you're after big power and don't care about handling or quarter mile times, then after you're on your opens, swap a worked 2j with a big single. Will probably still only run 12's but will be nice on the highway. Trying to take a heavy, underpower JZZ31 and bend it to be a high performance (whether that means tpo speed, acceleration, cornering, etc) race car isn't going to work out to your favour. They make awesome, comfortable dailies as that's what they were made to do.

No offense to anyone with a tuned jzz31, just my opinion.
Rob Rojo
Goo Roo
NSW
Soarer TT

Posts: 1981
Reg: 12-2007

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Wednesday, April 22, 2009 - 11:59 am, by:  Rob Rojo (Rob_tt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Just keep your NA till your off your P's and then sell it and buy a TT. At least if you do any Visual mods now you should be able to swap them on to the TT later on.

The JZZ31's seem to be holding decent value because of the new restrictions for P platers so you might end up with a TT and a bit of extra cash in your pocket.
Tom James
Newbie
Victoria
Non Turbo

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Reg: 04-2009

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Wednesday, April 22, 2009 - 01:00 pm, by:  Tom James (Tj1990) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ok so its much much easier just to buy a TT Soarer.

Now this may be a really dumb question but would I be able to buy a TT and badge it as the non turbo model?

Or would it say Soarer TT on the rego sticker?

Thanks for all your help guys :-)
Rob Rojo
Goo Roo
NSW
Soarer TT

Posts: 1983
Reg: 12-2007

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Wednesday, April 22, 2009 - 01:05 pm, by:  Rob Rojo (Rob_tt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

IT makes no difference how you badge it, as soon as your pulled over and they look under your bonnet you will be in trouble.
Tom James
Newbie
Victoria
Non Turbo

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Wednesday, April 22, 2009 - 04:09 pm, by:  Tom James (Tj1990) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yeah your probably right :-(

I will just have to explore more ways of NA tuning to get more power out of my 280 SLC
Simon Trainos
Tinkerer
Vic
JZZ31 VVT-i

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Wednesday, April 22, 2009 - 08:50 pm, by:  Simon Trainos (Lexgo) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yeah it would be nice to have more power! But I still think the jzz31 has got enough to have fun!

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