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Kerry Boehm
Tinkerer
Victoria
v8

Posts: 22
Reg: 07-2005

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Friday, December 23, 2005 - 12:22 pm, by:  Kerry Boehm (Kjbee) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Anybody watch Midsomer Murders last night. The car that the woman was driving looked like it was a Lexus 430 convertible. It looked so sweet. Any idea of cost and anyone know if there are any in Aus.
Ivor Miric
TryHard
NSW
Camry/Hilux

Posts: 133
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Friday, December 23, 2005 - 12:30 pm, by:  Ivor Miric (Ivor) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

haha there are many
they retail for about 160 000
Peter Nitschke
Junk Filterer
South Australia
GT4.0 V8

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Friday, December 23, 2005 - 12:32 pm, by:  Peter Nitschke (Pen) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Available in Australia through lexus dealers.

Model Year New Now
SC430 2001 $162000 $106000
SC430 2002 $161574 $118000
SC430 2003 $161574 $132000
SC430 2004 $161574 $138000
Kerry Boehm
Tinkerer
Victoria
v8

Posts: 23
Reg: 07-2005

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Friday, December 23, 2005 - 08:03 pm, by:  Kerry Boehm (Kjbee) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

OUCH
Freeman Tang
TryHard
Vic
JZZ30 GT-TL

Posts: 157
Reg: 07-2005

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Saturday, December 24, 2005 - 10:54 am, by:  Freeman Tang (Cobra_man) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

what a repulsive price tag...for what reasons they are so dear? the big "L" badge?
Jose-Antonio Castillo
TryHard
NSW
Black/Black JZZ30 VVTi

Posts: 393
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Saturday, December 24, 2005 - 11:33 am, by:  Jose-Antonio Castillo (Ahh_soarer) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Because everything in Australia is bloody expensive. Gotta love all their revenue raising tactics on overseas products.
Luke Middleton
Tinkerer
NSW
V8 Limited

Posts: 35
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Saturday, December 24, 2005 - 11:42 am, by:  Luke Middleton (Spook) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

those prices are obscene....
An 04 SC430 in the States was around $52K new.
I do like the GS430 though...
now where'e that winning lottery ticket??
David Vaughan
Goo Roo
ACT
Soarer GT-L (4.0 V8) Lexus is300 (3.0 VVT-i 6)

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Saturday, December 24, 2005 - 11:56 am, by:  David Vaughan (Davidv) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The depreciation rates are pretty normal. Adding those prices to 2nd hand data for our cars, there is a clear bend in the price curve such that our cars are below it, especially for later models. This is to be expected simply owing to the fact that our cars are grey imports, not [officially] supported by Toyota Australia. Had our cars been imported by Toyota I would expect them to lie on the same line as the SC430. Put another way, we own six to fourteen year-old versions of $160K cars. Does that make you feel better about it? .

By chance, half an hour ago I saw an SC430 on the road near here, for pretty much the first time. Red, it was. Two minutes before that a silver-grey IS250 went by, probably on a test drive as it was on the typical route from the local dealer and their test car is that colour.
David Vaughan
Goo Roo
ACT
Soarer GT-L (4.0 V8) Lexus is300 (3.0 VVT-i 6)

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Saturday, December 24, 2005 - 12:02 pm, by:  David Vaughan (Davidv) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


quote:

those prices are obscene....
An 04 SC430 in the States was around $52K new


Ever heard of Australia's 45% Luxury Car Tax, on top of import duty?

That is another factor of course; we do not pay that duty on our cheap grey imports, which is one reason the government and distributors do not like them. Notice how much cheaper these cars are in NZ.
Miles Baker
TryHard
Vic
V8

Posts: 189
Reg: 08-2005

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Saturday, December 24, 2005 - 08:07 pm, by:  Miles Baker (Milesb) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

???

We do pay import duty on cars less than 30 years old, and luxury tax on cars over 50 something thousand, on grey imports in Australia.
Neil Griffiths
Trader
NSW
Super Charged UZZ31

Posts: 1134
Reg: 07-2005

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Saturday, December 24, 2005 - 08:50 pm, by:  Neil Griffiths (Aussiesc) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The TAX on Grey Imports is
15% Duties on the Price
Then
10% GST of that total
(25% in total there)
We also have to pay GST on
Jap Agent
Jap Customs
Jap A/C De-Gas
ANYTHING we spend involved on buying a car in Japan now has GST slammed on it :-(

I think it is a TOTAL SCAM about paying GST on a SERVICE that is in ANOTHER Country ?? SH IT the Jap Government doesnt get that GST Money ??
Phil Gibson
TryHard
WA
'94 black/black UZZ31

Posts: 295
Reg: 07-2005

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Saturday, December 24, 2005 - 09:10 pm, by:  Phil Gibson (Sciflyer) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

in Japan '04 ones are selling at the auctions for around $50-60k....
Benny Gammelmark
Goo Roo
NSW
V8 UZZ31

Posts: 1188
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Sunday, December 25, 2005 - 02:28 am, by:  Benny Gammelmark (Oldfield) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

In DK it's 180% import tax + 25% GST.

I think cars are cheap here.
Miles Baker
TryHard
Vic
V8

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Sunday, December 25, 2005 - 11:00 am, by:  Miles Baker (Milesb) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Neil there are so many things that are bullshite in there huh. Like the GST is charged on the import duty too! tax on tax. and then you go register it, and they want stamp duty - which by definition is a sales tax. the sale did not occur in this country !!
Lam Tran
Tinkerer
Tokyo
none

Posts: 44
Reg: 07-2005

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Sunday, December 25, 2005 - 01:27 pm, by:  Lam Tran (Lam) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

you can get a brand new one here for about 6 million yen...
Mike Beck
TryHard
New Zeland
no soarer... v8 has been sold..

Posts: 225
Reg: 11-2005

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Sunday, December 25, 2005 - 03:10 pm, by:  Mike Beck (Gold_40gt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Those new sc430s arent the best looking lexus around. A bit to chubby not long and thin like the sc400.. But there still a nice car!
Neil Griffiths
Trader
NSW
Super Charged UZZ31

Posts: 1141
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Sunday, December 25, 2005 - 05:10 pm, by:  Neil Griffiths (Aussiesc) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yeah Miles..There's a bit of *Double Dipping* in the Import side of things hey.Used to only pay 21% Import Tax..(But remember..GST was to SAVE us money) hahahahahahah
As far as I'm concerned,,These ARE TAXES.
GST
Duties
Levies
Stamps
(Prolly some more I can't think of )
Mike Triggs
TryHard
Norfolk Island
3.0GT G-Pack

Posts: 422
Reg: 07-2005

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Sunday, December 25, 2005 - 05:31 pm, by:  Mike Triggs (Mikeandimah) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Try taking a car to Malaysia- 300% Import Duty on 3 litre engines and over. Supposedly to protect Proton and some of the others who make cars there (like Citroen). No such thing as a "level playing field".

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