Friday, March 31, 2006 - 12:31 pm, by: Mike Bradberry(Halflife)
I was doing a road test yesterday after I fitted a new (second hand) alternator and a patrol car was coming in the opposite direction. As I looked down at my speed I was doing 71KPH in a 60 zone. When I checked my rear view mirror, sure enough he's doing a u-turn and coming after me. Doh! I went around a slight bend out of sight and turned next right and kept checking rear view mirror. Lucky for me he went straight ahead and I didn't see him again. But, am I going to get a fine in the mail or do they have to pull me over. Anyone know if on board cameras are common?
Hahahah similar thing happened to me. I was driving down a dual lane road. There was a long stretch of road with no turn offs, i sped up a little and didnt realise behind me was a an undecover copper I was on the left lane, he overtook me and drove next to me on the right lane, pointing at me with his badge (he had no police lights) to pull over. Soon enough I noticed a left hand turn in front of me, I nodded to him that I will comply so he sped up and went in front of me and started slowing down, as we were passing the turn off I quickly breaked and turned left, the dipsh|t went straight! Hahaha, I quickly went through the all the twisty suburban roads and lost him, there's no way he could have gotten me then (assuming he went over the median strip and back around). Ok wasn't the right thing to do but I did save some $$$. He must have not gotten my plates since I haven't heard anything since...
Friday, March 31, 2006 - 12:52 pm, by: Peter Nitschke(Pen)
"Dear Mr. Plod,
Remember that white Soarer that.... ?"
Seriously though, that was pretty risky. If he did have your plates, he could have probably thrown a few more things at you.
Perhaps you didn't recognise the badge over the distance, it would certainly be hard to actually read it, and as you are supposed to keep your eyes on the road, you thought it was some "person of interest" that might be trying to hijack your car - hence the evasive action.
Friday, March 31, 2006 - 12:57 pm, by: Paul Brockbank(Brockas)
I'm pretty sure the Law is the same as in WA, you can't get done for anything unless they stop you at the time. Hence why a lot of people run from the cops now that the new Hoon Laws are in place, especially considering they only got V6 commo's here.
Friday, March 31, 2006 - 01:03 pm, by: Ryan Rankovic(Ryan1j)
well i was told by a certain muppet that every demerit you incur while on a bond or no licence that you get 3 months added, and with the amounts of points i had and then lost it would have been 28 months. if thats what the muppet said was true anyhow
Friday, March 31, 2006 - 01:11 pm, by: Luke Nieuwhof(Luke_nieuwhof)
Daniel, I reckon you did the right thing actually. Surprising the undercover car did not have lights and I think you would have been quite justified not to pull over, as it could have been a risky situation if he was not a cop. It actually sounds a bit odd.
The other night I was coming back up the freeway about to get off at Ocean Reef Road and there was a car with its headlights facing towards the traffic on the railway side. Couldn't work out what was happening, he was virtually in line with the exit. They flashed their high beams at me and the other traffic, I had no idea what it was. Pass it and it is a cop car. He turns his lights on just as I pass and I'm thinking 'bugger, here we go'. Came to a stop at lights at the top of the exit and then see this cop car come flying up, mount the kerb to get past cars and traffic lights, tear across the bridge, then tear off down the other side of the freeway leavnig me slightly confused. The cop was trying to get traffic to stop on the freeway (who couldn't see that it was a cop) so he could cut across to the exit. Crazy. Must have been someone doing a burnout somewhere for him to rush off like that.
Yeah I know it was risky Peter. It was like an instinctive reaction with no thought put into it. This is the first and only time (and last time I hope) I actually ran from the cops. Wouldn't want to outrun one that would be stupid, but outmanouvre hmmmm, worked for me. I did get shaky feet right after that though haha, but been laughing at it ever since If I did get caught though, I would have made up some sort of a reason like that for sure, I guess that would be reasonable. His car must have been a private car or something if he didn't have the lights...
Ryan! Where you flying a jet or what??? Gotta be a computer error hehe
Yeah I know I did the right thing, whether he was a cop or not, it was a bit dodgy, he looked like a cop though, was wearing blue clothes and had a badge and that, didnt get a good look really (could have been from a $2 shop, you never know). I am also surprised he went in front of me as they never do that, glad he did though, but I wouldnt be able to get away if he was behind me. Anyway, it didnt feel right at the time so I buggered off
Friday, March 31, 2006 - 09:11 pm, by: Callum Finch(Sigeneat)
His mum slept with the judge?
A mate of mine has been through a few riced up turbo cars in his time, Soarer was one of them.. Previous to the Soarer he had a very quick Silvia... And here comes the story..
Once upon a time, he went past a cop at well over the speed limit in Madington. The police officer began chase. When the friend saw the lights flash behind him, he also noticed that infront of him a railway crossing was indicating a train was coming past. The boom gates were still in their upright position. The friend sped up and under the boom gates momentarily before they closed, leaving the officer stationary to never see the Silvia again.
Of course, one of the more stupider things anyone can do.. running from the cops and playing chicken with a train at the same time.. however it saved him in this instance.
Monday, April 03, 2006 - 08:10 am, by: Matthew Sharpe(Madmatt)
Daniel Czechowski wrote on Friday, March 31, 2006 - 12:13 pm:
Yeah I know it was risky Peter.
Even if he had been a cop, he couldnt have booked you in a private car anyway - has to have a calibrated and certified speed detection device or calibrated and certified spedometer. Worst he could have done is have a grumble at you.
Troy Baker TryHard Carnarvon WA Soarer HKS Single Turbo
Monday, April 03, 2006 - 09:12 am, by: Troy Baker(Sincity)
Paul Brockbank wrote on Friday, March 31, 2006 - 11:57 am:
I'm pretty sure the Law is the same as in WA, you can't get done for anything unless they stop you at the time.
Not sure where you got your legal degree from Paul but certainly not the case. If a police officer is too busy or can't stop you at the time you can just receive a summons in the mail, or get an unpleasant phone call.
Matthew Sharpe wrote on Monday, April 03, 2006 - 08:10 am:
ven if he had been a cop, he couldnt have booked you in a private car anyway - has to have a calibrated and certified speed detection device or calibrated and certified spedometer. Worst he could have done is have a grumble at you.
Even if I was going at say 30 k's over the limit where it is plain obvious? I'm not saying I was going that fast but you get my point right?
Monday, April 03, 2006 - 03:54 pm, by: Daniel Clarke(Dieseltrain)
To issue an infringement notice for any kind of speeding offence, The officer/s in charge must be using a certified radar or speed sensing device as approved via government regulations, or be inside a motor vehicle that has a speedometer that has been calibrated and has paperwork to prove so. In doing this, they must at least follow you for a minimum of 3 seconds or 300 metres at the speed of which they wish to charge you with.
I found all that out the hard way as a P-Plater(10 years ago almost) by an unmarked WRX in 1997 ( i know, hard to believe but it was) and i learned all the rules as my court case went along. Needless to say i admitted to speeding but only 10-15km/h over the limit, not the 55+ the officer claimed so i lost 3 points and fined $255 for my troubles.
The car was a 1981 BOG-STOCK 2.0L 4 cylinder ford cortina.
Monday, April 03, 2006 - 07:32 pm, by: Callum Finch(Sigeneat)
I have been down this path before...
Basically if it comes down to a drivers word against an officer's in caught, the judge will beleive the officer.
My story was i got done for... i wont say how fast i was going. Anyway, cop stopped me on a bike, i asked how he read my speed and he said he followed me at the same speed and blah. Talked to a couple of people in the know (Troy will prolly back this up) and it is not likely a cop will claim you did 30kph over hte limit if you werent. You may have only done 20kph over and the cop claimed otherwise, but you are still breaking the law, and no judge will flinch at that.
David Vaughan Goo Roo ACT UZZ31 V8 manual and Lexus IS300
Monday, April 03, 2006 - 07:50 pm, by: David Vaughan(Davidv)
The first part about policeman's word against yours is what happens. However, the bit about "...it is not likely a cop will claim you did 30kph over the limit if you weren't" is not correct.
Back in the eighties, I dragged my 71Kw 1.3 tonne saloon up a hill from the lights to a whole 95km/h and saw a police car chasing up after me. I slowed before he matched my speed but was pulled over anyway and taken to court (as they did in those days in the ACT). In court, the cop swore blind that I had been doing "110-120" or 30-40km/h over the 80 limit. I swore that I had done only 95. My car dould not have hit 120 up there no matter how hard I tried! I was done for 15 over the limit. Thinking about it afterwards, I should have denied exceeding 80 at all, because clearly the cop had no timing.
Three months later, with zero road changes, the speed limit on that road (Tuggeranong Parkway) was raised to 100km/h so now everyone routinely does 110. Justice.
Troy Baker TryHard Carnarvon WA Soarer HKS Single Turbo
Monday, April 03, 2006 - 08:15 pm, by: Troy Baker(Sincity)
Yeh, I agree with Callum, but if you get caught for speeding, or any offence and after seeking decently legal advise, (not talking to a mate who thinks he knows what he is talking about, ask me if you want) and you believe you are not guilty of the offence (not that you are guilty but think you can go to court and lie under oath and get off) take it to court. That is why the court system exists. In WA it will cost you a day of your time and an extra $100 if you lose but if you have been treated unfairly certainly give it a fly.
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I was on the left lane, he overtook me and drove next to me on the right lane, pointing at me with his badge (he had no police lights) to pull over. Soon enough I noticed a left hand turn in front of me, I nodded to him that I will comply so he sped up and went in front of me and started slowing down, as we were passing the turn off I quickly breaked and turned left, the dipsh|t went straight! Hahaha, I quickly went through the all the twisty suburban roads and lost him, there's no way he could have gotten me then (assuming he went over the median strip and back around). 
If I did get caught though, I would have made up some sort of a reason like that for sure, I guess that would be reasonable. His car must have been a private car or something if he didn't have the lights... 
