Saturday, July 21, 2012 - 08:31 pm, by: Andrew McKellar(Toymax)
Sorry mate, I don't know what they cost, got them done under a sort of sponsorship arrangement. The aluminium uprights were actually done with a plasma cutter. I'm impressed they turned out that well... And don't stress about the doors at this stage.
Got the wing finally positioned and installed today. Had to modify the uprights as although they were designed to clear the boot lid, I didn't allow for the boot lid to be taken off and put in with the mounts installed. You can see the difference in the photos above to the photos below. Also cut the slots in the rear bumper and it now fits really neatly on the car and around the wing mounts. I did a couple of fibreglass repairs to bits on the underside and inside of the bar, which is why I have no photo of it on the car yet, but it will go on no worries.
Here's some snaps from today (still with the crappy phone camera sorry):
Saturday, July 21, 2012 - 09:25 pm, by: Aaron Casey(Blownminiturbo)
That wing looks great! Is the weekend a one or two day event? I might be going to wtac on saturday but id love to help out on the sunday! If i dont go to wtac i can help out all weekend
Andrew McKellar DieHard NSW Soarer Sports Sedan (well, nearly)
Wednesday, August 15, 2012 - 08:15 pm, by: Andrew McKellar(Toymax)
Thanks Peter, seemed to work.
The weekend at Wakefield was good and bad. Good: set a PB. Bad: engine playing up chronically - fuel starvation or something yet to be diagnosed. What a pain.
Meanwhile, here's some photos of how it looked before we went:
Friday, August 17, 2012 - 07:45 pm, by: Andrew McKellar(Toymax)
Nice work thanks Aaron. And thanks for the chat and helping out on the weekend too. Here's some more photos from Wakefield Park, courtesy of our friends at Koen Photo:
Mark Peters TryHard WA Soarer UZ31 Ltd, 77 Mini Clubman Estate
Friday, August 17, 2012 - 08:06 pm, by: Ben Lipman(Ben12a)
The way those end plates sit, it looks like you are running a negative angle of attack. (I can see the wing profile and that tells me you aren't). In earlier photos the end plates were more horizontal- did you find you had too much rear wing, or is it just that the car was good enough with less wing and therefore you did not need the drag penalty?
Andrew McKellar DieHard NSW Soarer Sports Sedan (well, nearly)
Friday, August 17, 2012 - 08:27 pm, by: Andrew McKellar(Toymax)
Mark Peters wrote on Friday, August 17, 2012 - 07:50 pm:
Whats with the P plate on the rear? is that a condition of racing?
Yes Mark. You have to do a certain number of events to maintain a full competition licence, or you drop back to a provisional one. Successfully complete 5 events in a 2 year period and you can upgrade again.
Ben Lipman wrote on Friday, August 17, 2012 - 08:06 pm:
did you find you had too much rear wing, or is it just that the car was good enough with less wing and therefore you did not need the drag penalty?
We were experimenting a little, but in the end found the best drag-v-downforce setting was in about the middle. With the minimal amount of power we run, I felt we were losing a bit on the straight with the highest setting. And yes, the end plates don't sit exactly at the right angle, which was something also seen on the previous car that adorned it.
If I can get my pesky video editing stuff to work, I'll be posting up some video from the weekend too. Here's some snapshots to sample while you wait...
Friday, August 17, 2012 - 09:30 pm, by: Michael McKellar(Mickmini)
Ben Lipman wrote on Friday, August 17, 2012 - 08:06 pm:
The way those end plates sit, it looks like you are running a negative angle of attack.
Andrew McKellar wrote on Friday, August 17, 2012 - 08:27 pm:
And yes, the end plates don't sit exactly at the right angle, which was something also seen on the previous car that adorned it.
I know the wing is at the right angle, but the look of those end plates bugs the hell out of me, especially since the rest of the car looks so damn good.
cheers michael
Andrew McKellar DieHard NSW Soarer Sports Sedan (well, nearly)
Monday, August 20, 2012 - 08:20 pm, by: Andrew McKellar(Toymax)
Well, that's all a bit complex. The cameras are remote head things, similar to what you can get on ebay but better quality (the one inside the cabin is an ebay one though). The 3 outside ones I used because they are better quality and lenses can be changed for different sizes. The one on the side of the car I thought looked OK when I set it up, but I'm not happy it sees enough so next time it'll be a small lens (I think it was 8mm, so I'll go 4mm). The camera on the front is older and I think poor quality, so it'll be getting replaced too.
They are all analogue cameras, running into a digital recorder. The audio comes from the camera inside the car, although it is actually laid down on the front bumper camera track in the recorder (it was Video 1 input, and I put the audio into Audio 1). The recorder is a purpose built thing, which will have some more features next time out. When we are running next year I'll be utilising its in-built GPS and g-force meter, and I'll be able to live stream the video and audio to all you keen watchers out there.
None of the gear is commercially available really, but you can get copies of it by searching.
The down side is that it records to a not so common format (asf), with the audio encrypted. I have to convert is to avi, then cut to a decent starting point using Windows Movie Maker, re-save and then edit things together using Adobe Premier 2.0 - that's where the different cameras can be spliced together, but keeping everything synchronised is a must. I'm still teaching myself how to use it, so I'm hoping I'll get better at it.
Ben Lipman Goo Roo SA Soarer TT manual, plus TT track car
Monday, August 20, 2012 - 10:42 pm, by: Ben Lipman(Ben12a)
Faaark. I thought you were going to say 'video box' or something. A bloke on one of these forums used to make and sell a camera/recorder setup using 4 remote cameras and a single recorder, plus a cabin mike for audio. Back then I though "I'll never use anything like that." Hmmmm.
Any rate, you produced a very slick video.
Andrew McKellar DieHard NSW Soarer Sports Sedan (well, nearly)
Thursday, August 23, 2012 - 08:28 am, by: Clayton Carlyle(Clayton)
That C6 is an animal. You need his engine haha.
What are you options for more power in S/sedan rules? I know your not allowed forced induction on the 1uz because it didn't come factory, could you 1.5j it??
Or could you heavily mod the N/a 1uz?
That C6 just eats cars for breakfast on the straights.
Thursday, August 23, 2012 - 12:53 pm, by: Andrew McKellar(Toymax)
Clayton Carlyle wrote on Thursday, August 23, 2012 - 08:28 am:
That C6 is an animal. You need his engine haha.
It's a Dodge 6L engine. If I had it I'd at least rev it above 4,000rpm! Sounds like its only just above idle to me.
Clayton Carlyle wrote on Thursday, August 23, 2012 - 08:28 am:
What are you options for more power in S/sedan rules? I know your not allowed forced induction on the 1uz because it didn't come factory, could you 1.5j it??
It is pretty much open slather as much as engine options and obtaining more power. However, there is a 6000cc capacity limit. Any engine supercharged (including turbo) has a 1.7 multiplier added to the capacity, with the result being that if you want to go forced induction then the engine must be less than 3.5 litres and that is why the 1UZ can't run turbos.
I can mod the 1UZ to run NA. By doing most of the work on the top end (because the bottom is already pretty strong) you can nearly double the power. Nearly.
That's a start. Then of course there's the option of sleeving the 1UZ down to 3.5l, then you can throw twin blow dryers on no problem
Thursday, August 23, 2012 - 05:11 pm, by: Clayton Carlyle(Clayton)
Haha, not to mention the lifting and gliding into the corners. Still an awsome car. How can a vette run a dodge engine?? Is a 1.5j or 2jz allowed? much cheaper option than replacing bores & with unlimited aftermarket support. Very creative idea tho.
Andrew McKellar DieHard NSW Soarer Sports Sedan (well, nearly)
Thursday, August 23, 2012 - 05:35 pm, by: Andrew McKellar(Toymax)
Clayton Carlyle wrote on Thursday, August 23, 2012 - 05:11 pm:
Haha, not to mention the lifting and gliding into the corners. Still an awsome car. How can a vette run a dodge engine??
Yeah Sean (the C6 man) built the car himself and it is a credit to him, but he's still a bit timid in it, worried about getting damage to his new pride and joy. He did a 1.02 in qualifying, so I imagine once he gets his head around giving it some stick, it'll perform rather well.
The Dodge NASCAR engine is reputed to be more powerful and stronger than the Chev equivalent (the SB2.2) that a lot of front running guys are using.
Sports Sedans can run any engine/chassis combination. That's the beauty of the category - you can be creative. We have 6L Chev engines in RX7s, Holden Geminis running Nissan SR20 turbos, a Fiat with a 20B rotary. Anything is possible.
So yes, I could run a 1/2J, but I kinda like the V8. It feels more, well, Sports Sedanny. I could also run a Chev (or a Dodge), but I'm a bit of a purist and kind of like the idea of my Toyota having a Toyota engine. Oh, and I consider those other engines to be dinosaurs with regards to technology. Pushrods and only one inlet and exhaust valve? Old.
Thursday, August 23, 2012 - 09:36 pm, by: Clayton Carlyle(Clayton)
For some reason I thought S/sedan cars had to run the same manufacturers engine, I was disappointed when I found out I couldn't use my engine, so time attack is the go but nothing like racing other cars in SS.
I completely agree with your opinion on dinosaur pushrod engines, I have this argument with people everyday.
A 2jz = lag monster.
I have just ported my own heads which will be put on a flow bench before I install them. I'll post the results. I used one alloy carbide bur + one small steel c/bur + small sand paper wheels from bunnings that fit on a drill. All cost about $200.00 Cheap but time consuming way to get power.
Andrew McKellar DieHard NSW Soarer Sports Sedan (well, nearly)
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