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Mike Beck
Goo Roo
New Zealand
Celsior UCF11 V8
Posts: 1702
Reg: 11-2005
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Before I being, Yes, this might be another of my 'on going' posts like in the past but It keeps things interesting and I want to hear some others opinions so bare with me! 
Right well I currently have a 1990, UCF11 Celsior which is mostly stock and in excellent condition through out for its age and only traveled 107,000kms.
Next year Im starting a new Job soon in the new year which will require me to have a low cost reasonable station wagon to fit the gear in well and have space for various tools and materials... Currently thinking a 1996-8 Legnum 1.8 Wagon, So far, from what Ive studied they are a good car when serviced and drive rather well from my experiences in a few.
My current thought is that if I save for one of these, Ill then be able to have the celsior as a secondary 'special' car. However it suddenly comes to the point that effectively Ill be having two 'family' targeted cars, one common and one special with some power from a top engine. The celsior is brilliant yet is not a sports car and is mostly seen as a luxury family car with a V8. Not ideal for the track or serious driving - a cruiser only to be realistic. Which is what they do very very well.
So what Ive been thinking it would be most wise to go back to a soarer for a second 'special' car, they are probably the one and only luxo sports couple like them different from everything else and I could just look at their design all day - So beautiful inside and out - even mechanically! Mmm!
This would mean, selling my much enjoyed Celsior on to another, Ive done 5,000kms in it over the last 7 months or so, its been superb but I feel its sort of a dead end road, theres not a lot you can do with them compared to soarers... Now back to the issue, if I sold my Celsior, I could instantly find a good work car which would be the primary A-B and work horse car - so that would sort that situation out. With the remaining money I could bank it and continue to save to find the perfect soarer.... Quite exciting just thinking about the idea!
What Im considering is either of two soarers, a UZZ31 Limited with EMV or a JZZ30 GT-TL Soarer with the extra finishings. Both are excellent cars. With the Limited V8, I feel having the EMV would be an extra special touch as Ive really always wanted one, even though they can play up its only a matter of paying for it to get repaired. Plus on top of the EMV they have Leather and the other much desired luxo features so they are quite a tempting option...
On the other hand with a GT-TL soarer TT it would have all the features like a UZZ30 plus TEMS possibly. But the main thing is the engine and turbo power which I really was amazed by when trying a couple out, Sheer enjoyment they were. Much more of an adrenaline rush than the V8 models, especially a celsior!
Yet the V8s are so smooth and effortless they have a world thats quite different to the TT which I mainly for up top grunt and a real driving rush.
So what do you guys think... A Limited EMV V8 or a TT soarer as the project special car for the weekends? Keeping in mind Its imperative I have two cars, as the work vehicle is needed during the week and life's just no fun with out a fun car for weekends regardless of costs... |
Karyn Cornwill
Tinkerer
Victoria
tt
Posts: 93
Reg: 08-2007
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Definatley the TT  |
Dave Billings
DieHard
Louisiana
SC 300, 2JZE, 5 Speed
Posts: 920
Reg: 06-2007
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Mike Beck wrote on Thursday, December 13, 2007 - 08:28 pm: Keeping in mind Its imperative I have two cars, as the work vehicle is needed during the week and life's just no fun with out a fun car for weekends regardless of costs...
Hehe! Cheers on that!!  |
Mike Beck
Goo Roo
New Zealand
Celsior UCF11 V8
Posts: 1705
Reg: 11-2005
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Glad you agree! Im sure many others do too
Im just going to do a Pro and Cons list for each of the 3 cars, Celsior/Soarer Limited/Soarer TT hopefully that can make a good general comparison.
Celsior
Pros:
Comfortable ride
Quiet
Reasonable Power
Solid appearance
Multiple features
Cons:
Average handling
Heavy - Making it slightly slower
Soft ride
Not easily modified at low costs
Not as good looking as a soarer!
Limited V8 Soarer
Pros:
Comfortable and quiet
Leather, EMV, Air suspension features
More upgrades available than a Celsior
Decent Handling.
Unique and a stand out.
Cons:
Soft, lofty ride with Air Suspension
EMV can have issues
Finding tidy ones with good leather can be a challenge.
Soarer TT
Pros:
Fastest soarer model
Best biggest brakes
Amazing sounds and power delivery
Easy for increases in power.
Simple interior, with out extra not needed features
Cons:
More to maintain
Easy to speed in
Very easy to spend a lot on
Lacking in some feature areas. |
Kyle Wathen
TryHard
Vic
GTTL
Posts: 323
Reg: 02-2007
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It seems to me like you have already answered your own question.
You said you like the V8 in the Celsoir but it just doesn’t offer the excitement that the TT brings. You would still basically be in the same ship if you jumped into a UZZ soarer. The JZZ’s would make a much more fun weekender and are easily modified to suit your tastes with plenty of off the shelf products.
I wouldn’t worry about TEMS in my opinion they make f-all difference and a nice set of aftermarket shocks or coilovers would do nicely. Depending on your budget I would opt for a late model VVTi 1JZ if possible, you will find that power comes on smoother and faster than TT models – which is probably more to your liking after driving the V8’s.
Maintenance costs shouldn’t worry you too much considering its only a weekender I assume it wouldn’t be doing too many km’s a year.
On the other hand if you plan on just cruising around the streets in it on the weekends then a UZZ31/32 with all the options would suit well. |
Daniel Czechowski
Goo Roo
Western Australia
Soarer GT-T (sold  ) & IS300 Sports Luxury
Posts: 3254
Reg: 07-2005
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You want excitement? Got TT mate! |
Mike Beck
Goo Roo
New Zealand
Celsior UCF11 V8
Posts: 1708
Reg: 11-2005
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Yeah most things are hinting at me to get a TT Soarer... Ive tried the V8's and kinda worried if I went back I just get slightly bored with them again... TT is an entire new ball park Ive not been in so it would make sense to try them out.
Ive only heard good things about them so cant see me reverting back to a V8 model...
If I do decide, I guess its by by to the Celsior, get a Work wagon, save the rest and hunt for a really special TT thats ideal for a weekend driver. Theres plenty in NZ so Its just a matter of being patient!
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Darryn Dewar
DieHard
Gisborne
UZZ30 Soarer
Posts: 881
Reg: 09-2005
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Save properly and get the Single Turbo VVTi model  |
Callum Finch
Goo Roo
WA
Soarer TT & Corolla
Posts: 3667
Reg: 09-2005
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I'd go a v8.
If you want a TT Soarer you might be better off grabbing an Aristo. |
Jose-Antonio Castillo
Goo Roo
NSW
Soarer VVTi
Posts: 1351
Reg: 07-2005
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Darryn Dewar wrote on Friday, December 14, 2007 - 12:52 pm:Save properly and get the Single Turbo VVTi model
Here here!!! |
Matthew Sharpe
Goo Roo
North Island
JZZ31
Posts: 3257
Reg: 10-2005
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Dunno about the fun car bit, but for gods sake stay away from the 1.8 Legnum - my Brother in law has one and I've driven him home from the pub a couple of times in it, and its the most GOD AWFUL slow piece of •••• I've ever driven.
Admittedly it is always full of 4 or 5 full grown men, but even so, you put your foot down and NOTHING happens - except for the incredibly loud noise made by his 5" canon.
Honestly my wife's 1.6 litre AE101 feels like a drag car in comparision, and my JZZ31 like some kind of rocket ship.
The paddle changers are useless as well.
I think its just too much station wagon for the poor 1.8 litre to tow properly. I'm sure the VR4 model is great. |
Mike Beck
Goo Roo
New Zealand
Celsior UCF11 V8
Posts: 1709
Reg: 11-2005
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Haha Yeah but Id be looking at around 15,000-20,000 which is about 3x as Much as I want to spend.
Plenty of 1991+ model TT's for 6-8k which is my price range. If I found my old V8 soarer that was immaculate for 5.5k, I'm sure this is also quite possible with a TT model. |
Mike Beck
Goo Roo
New Zealand
Celsior UCF11 V8
Posts: 1710
Reg: 11-2005
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Matthew Sharpe wrote on Friday, December 14, 2007 - 01:41 pm:stay away from the 1.8 Legnum - my Brother in law has one and I've driven him home from the pub a couple of times in it, and its the most GOD AWFUL slow piece of •••• I've ever driven.
Yeah thats true, it is a 1.3 Tonne car with 110kw/175nm but in two I test drove last week I found they were slow yet got along ok. Its just as a A-B car thats cheap to run and has space.
Certainly felt gutless compared to my celsior of course was a laugh but I am satisfied they will suit my needs fine. |
Darryn Dewar
DieHard
Gisborne
UZZ30 Soarer
Posts: 883
Reg: 09-2005
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Mike Beck wrote on Friday, December 14, 2007 - 01:43 pm:I'm sure this is also quite possible with a TT model.
Given the different types of owners of the TT compared to the V8s, I'd disagree...but best of luck  |
Mark Donovan
TryHard
Wellington
Soarer V8 Limited
Posts: 255
Reg: 07-2005
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Mike- First things first -have you driven a UZZ31 on good airbags? |
Aka Abedin
Goo Roo
NSW
91 G-TT, 93 GTL 31
Posts: 1062
Reg: 07-2005
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Just make sure it has a turbo or 2 hanging off it
Only way to have some fun in a soarer. Look at Daniel Clarke he is running 11.89 with stock turbos. |
Greg Nikitiuk
Goo Roo
Vic
Celsior
Posts: 1192
Reg: 07-2005
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Mike Beck wrote on Friday, December 14, 2007 - 09:01 am:Not as good looking as a soarer!
Matter of taste, really 
Get a TT then you will know all 3 of them. (JK don't do it) |
Gregg Holden
Trader
WA
Soarer UZZ31 Supercharged
Posts: 830
Reg: 08-2005
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Supercharged v8 is the way to go....
I've done the modded TT route and yeah it's fun but now I've got a charged V8 I'd never go back...
Disagree on the lofty ride on the bags. They are very tight on sport mode and cruisy as hell on normal. It's great to have the two options. Plus choose your ride height - this has been a GODSEND to make it practical and lo-rider...
As for sound, well you can opt for quiet but if you want a sound that blows away the big fart of a TT then extractors, big exhaust and the whine of the charger up the top end cannot be beaten.
Power delivery is smooth and quick with a charger. It's definitely the best all round luxo cruiser with balls...
Don't worry about the EMV though. It's over-rated. I'll be doing the mode to get the non-EMV aircon control and sticking in a new double din aftermarket unit. Much better option.
As you are already coming from a V8 I think you'll be nothing but disappointed going to a TT...
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Jason Underwood
Tinkerer
W.A
Manual V8 Ltd
Posts: 94
Reg: 07-2007
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I think you're spot on Greg, I have driven a few TT's and I always enjoy getting back in my manual V8, the sound and the instant torque. You can't beat it. |
Greg Nikitiuk
Goo Roo
Vic
Celsior
Posts: 1193
Reg: 07-2005
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Mike Beck wrote on Friday, December 14, 2007 - 01:43 pm:Plenty of 1991+ model TT's for 6-8k which is my price range
It would be pretty difficult to get clean SC V8 at this price. I hope you can Mike as this would be as Gregg said the best way to go.
Drive few TTs and see what you think |
Dave Billings
DieHard
Louisiana
SC 300, 2JZE, 5 Speed
Posts: 925
Reg: 06-2007
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Greg Nikitiuk wrote on Friday, December 14, 2007 - 03:39 pm:Drive few TTs and see what you think
Send me one over!!! |
Mike Beck
Goo Roo
New Zealand
Celsior UCF11 V8
Posts: 1711
Reg: 11-2005
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Darryn Dewar wrote on Friday, December 14, 2007 - 02:13 pm:Given the different types of owners of the TT compared to the V8s, I'd disagree...but best of luck
Haha yeah you do have a very good point there Darryn.. Ill have to keep that in mind.
Mark Donovan wrote on Friday, December 14, 2007 - 02:15 pm:Mike- First things first -have you driven a UZZ31 on good airbags?
Yes, but on 3 old 182km struts and 1 new one. Drove nicely but it was a tired example and a little sloppy around the bends. Still my Air bag celsior is slightly similar and Im really happy with its ride and handling it goes well especially on Hard shock mode... So I could imagine new UZZ31 air bags would be superb..
Greg Nikitiuk wrote on Friday, December 14, 2007 - 02:56 pm:Matter of taste, really
Get a TT then you will know all 3 of them. (JK don't do it)
Haha, well I really like the looks of celsiors, thats why I own one but I feel soarers still have the slight edge...
Gregg Holden wrote on Friday, December 14, 2007 - 03:20 pm:Supercharged v8 is the way to go....
I've done the modded TT route and yeah it's fun but now I've got a charged V8 I'd never go back...
Disagree on the lofty ride on the bags. They are very tight on sport mode and cruisy as hell on normal. It's great to have the two options. Plus choose your ride height - this has been a GODSEND to make it practical and lo-rider...
As for sound, well you can opt for quiet but if you want a sound that blows away the big fart of a TT then extractors, big exhaust and the whine of the charger up the top end cannot be beaten.
Power delivery is smooth and quick with a charger. It's definitely the best all round luxo cruiser with balls...
Don't worry about the EMV though. It's over-rated. I'll be doing the mode to get the non-EMV aircon control and sticking in a new double din aftermarket unit. Much better option.
As you are already coming from a V8 I think you'll be nothing but disappointed going to a TT...
Yeah I hear what your saying Greg, Id be looking at around 4-5k though but with awesome results which would be quite tempting - Im sure it would have the edge over any TT soarer due to its 1.5l extra, 2 more cylinders and low torque and all. Makes sense but it is a rather serious modification.
Mmm well suspension wise Im happy with my Celsiors ride and handling, not as good as a soarer 31 but goes well around the bends for such a large car.
Yeah and sound wise Im sure the SC V8 is definitely a superb sound note. TT however is great although slightly trashy compared.. I do favour the V8 sound more still but the turbo spool on a TT is definitely interesting. Then again so would a SC!
Greg Nikitiuk wrote on Friday, December 14, 2007 - 03:39 pm:It would be pretty difficult to get clean SC V8 at this price. I hope you can Mike as this would be as Gregg said the best way to go.
Drive few TTs and see what you think
Hmm here in NZ its quite possible for a TT but as Darryn says with alot of the owner types it can be harder as they are trashed, modified and people put large price tags on rubbish examples. The V8's however can be bargains time to time...
If I was to bank away 5-10k to spend on a UZZ30/UZZ31 for the General I/E/H and ECU mods plus a S/C kit they would definitely be the best soarer on the road... I would be then talking at a car thats worth 5-7k with easily 10k of tune ups making it over 15k which is reasonable considering what your getting. So no, I couldnt get a Clean SC V8 for 6-8k however! Even at 15k or so you would need to pay 50-100k for a similar SC V8 with all the features and all that. For the price these cant really be beat.
Definitely worth thinking about... Another thought I just had is that I know the V8's quite well, so going to a TT would require some new thinking and servicing plans etc.. |
Mike Beck
Goo Roo
New Zealand
Celsior UCF11 V8
Posts: 1712
Reg: 11-2005
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Well thinking about what some of you guys have said over this evening, Ive come to the conclusion it would be best to sell my celsior... Its an excellent car but my interests lie more in the soarers to be more honest, they are just more complete some how...
A UZZ30/31 would be the way to go again, Looking through some pictures of my last one it was just stunning, loads I could have done to it. FSG is a nice colour so good most come with it... Only colour Im not a fan of is white...
I just feel a TT would be good, but Ive just got the desire for the 1UZ more and probably confirm that if I spend a bit of money on one properly and eventuate to a SC kit like Gregg says
So to sum it up...
Step 1: Is to tidy up the car in a few areas to make a quick sale
Step 2: Sell the car as is
Step 3: Find a cheap low cost work vehicle
Step 4: Bank remaining funds, save and hunt for a UZZ30 or 31
Step 5: Once found purchase it and go on from there!
Shall be the best way to go. Will be a terrific pair of cars... Definitely see the celsior gone for it! Will be perfect!
Watching this again just tells me Im making the right choice http://nz.youtube.com/watch?v=-a4-odN2oIU
I just get that excited feeling Ive discovered the Soarer all over again!!! |
Alen Sadikovic
TryHard
VIC
Soarer GTT
Posts: 373
Reg: 10-2006
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too long to read, but what ever it is, stick to the TT lol |
Mike Beck
Goo Roo
New Zealand
Celsior UCF11 V8
Posts: 1714
Reg: 11-2005
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Well Im hopefully going to test drive a UZZ30 tonight.... so that will help make my mind up after driving two TT's a few months ago.. |
Joshua Rao
TryHard
WA
2JZ-GE
Posts: 325
Reg: 09-2006
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Good luck Mike. I am in the same predicament as yourself except I have a JZZ31. Ideally I would like a 97+ JZZ30 GTL manual black on black but either they are too rare to find or too expensive, hence looking at a uzz31. I like your pros and cons table very informative. |
Jose-Antonio Castillo
Goo Roo
NSW
Soarer VVTi
Posts: 1352
Reg: 07-2005
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If you're going for a V8 I reckon go for a UZZ30 and supercharge that... most likely run into less problems.
Or a VVTi single turbo |
Mike Beck
Goo Roo
New Zealand
Celsior UCF11 V8
Posts: 1715
Reg: 11-2005
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Jose-Antonio Castillo wrote on Saturday, December 15, 2007 - 01:48 pm:If you're going for a V8 I reckon go for a UZZ30 and supercharge that
Yeah I think that would be my most desired route... Might have a price tag but hell it will be worth it many times over!
Ill let you know how this soarer Im test driving in an hour or so goes... Should be interesting! |
Darryn Dewar
DieHard
Gisborne
UZZ30 Soarer
Posts: 884
Reg: 09-2005
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Did we mention a VVTi Single Turbo??  |
Mike Beck
Goo Roo
New Zealand
Celsior UCF11 V8
Posts: 1716
Reg: 11-2005
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Darryn Dewar wrote on Saturday, December 15, 2007 - 04:02 pm:Did we mention a VVTi Single Turbo??
YES YES you guys have but I cant afford one of them! looking at 15k minimum! |
Mike Beck
Goo Roo
New Zealand
Celsior UCF11 V8
Posts: 1717
Reg: 11-2005
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Right well I test drove that car today...
Was in above average condition, 141kms 1991 UZZ30 in Gold. Not quite as good as my soarer was though.
Had a few Issues. Paint chips and flakes here and there, Seat belt extensions were missing, LCD for A/C bled, Power Steering Pump on its way out! Very noisy, A/D didnt work error came up...
Other than that it was in pretty good order, but I was disappointed to find how rattely the interior was and how much more plastic-ish it felt compared to the celsior - It was riding on Bilstien coils and 18" alloys though even still it was a rather noisy interior on the open roads.
Door trims were failing as usual and wow! are those heavy doors. I found the Celsior is much more solidly build in side thats for sure! Space wise I did fell cramped at over 1.8m its certainly a change from the open space celsior interior... Seats were good though.
Performance wise, Power Steering was average and very noisy, told owner about what was going on their and how he should look into it ASAP. Brakes were top notch, trans and engine ticked over fine.
I wasnt too impressed with the 2.5" Dual exhaust with a long single shared resonator was not as a good as sound as it could have been thats for sure, too much drone and no bark...
Handling was interesting however, rather flat with the large wheels and good shocks but comparable to my celsior which actually is not as bad as I thought handling wise. Im really happy with it be honest.
When I got back into my car, it felt more solid, quieter and even faster! Not like there was anything wrong with that soarer though it was a good car that just needs a few things done.
So at the moment Im convinced the Celsior is still the best car out of the bunch, However Im trying hopefully tomorrow to test a 1991, 100km Limited V8 with the usual features so that should be a good guide if its any good...
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Mike Beck
Goo Roo
New Zealand
Celsior UCF11 V8
Posts: 1718
Reg: 11-2005
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Well hopefully later on today If I can make contact with the owner Ill test drive this "Mint Condition" 100km limited soarer and see how that compares to the celsior which is still looking on top at the moment
I think this will be the best test to see if ill keep it or go back the the classic soarer......
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Mike Beck
Goo Roo
New Zealand
Celsior UCF11 V8
Posts: 1719
Reg: 11-2005
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Heres some pictures of this Gold UZZ30 in case anyones interested. Id call it above average...
This was the one on Trade me originally with a Green stripe down the side which had recently been taken off.. |
Matthew Sharpe
Goo Roo
North Island
JZZ31
Posts: 3258
Reg: 10-2005
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Definitely not up to your standards Mike.
Oh, I was in Grove Mitre 10 the other day. Saw your car parked under the Pohutakawa but didn't spot you inside anywhere. |
Mike Beck
Goo Roo
New Zealand
Celsior UCF11 V8
Posts: 1720
Reg: 11-2005
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Matthew Sharpe wrote on Sunday, December 16, 2007 - 04:12 pm:Definitely not up to your standards Mike.
Oh, I was in Grove Mitre 10 the other day. Saw your car parked under the Pohutakawa but didn't spot you inside anywhere.
Haha yeah my Soarer was at least a grade better than that one, Not trying to be a perfectionist but when I got mine for 5.5k and that gold one was asking 8k it just doesnt add up. Id value it around 5-6k minus wheels max.
Oh thats a shame Im all over the place in there so theres not always a chance. Ha Yeah I've parked my car there for a while, it keeps the sun off it in the afternoon and theres no one to open there door on it |
Matthew Sharpe
Goo Roo
North Island
JZZ31
Posts: 3260
Reg: 10-2005
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I'd be worried about the bird •••• though! =) |
Mike Beck
Goo Roo
New Zealand
Celsior UCF11 V8
Posts: 1725
Reg: 11-2005
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Matthew Sharpe wrote on Monday, December 17, 2007 - 07:25 am:I'd be worried about the bird •••• though! =)
Yeah, Has happened a few times so I just park it a bit further out. I just clean it off if it does happen though. Dont want the clear coat to be damaged! |
Gregg Holden
Trader
WA
Soarer UZZ31 Supercharged
Posts: 832
Reg: 08-2005
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Mike Beck wrote on Sunday, December 16, 2007 - 09:41 am:Heres some pictures of this Gold UZZ30 in case anyones interested. Id call it above average...
Seriously?... The examples over there must be getting really bad. Given the condition of that with frayed seatbelts, steering wheel worn to the bone, peeling paint et al I would have placed it in the "Above average example from the wreckers"....
Definitely have a good look around.. A really clean UZZ31 should impress - even stock... I really hope you find better examples!! |
Mike Beck
Goo Roo
New Zealand
Celsior UCF11 V8
Posts: 1726
Reg: 11-2005
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Gregg Holden wrote on Monday, December 17, 2007 - 03:35 pm:
Seriously?... The examples over there must be getting really bad. Given the condition of that with frayed seatbelts, steering wheel worn to the bone, peeling paint et al I would have placed it in the "Above average example from the wreckers"....
Definitely have a good look around.. A really clean UZZ31 should impress - even stock... I really hope you find better examples!!
Yeah Gregg, It was alright. Had potential to be a tidy one, definitely a keeper but there are better ones around I know, just have to hunt.
Main problems that made me call that an Above average one were,
-Paint flakes, chips and some missing clear coat on some areas, other than that good.
-Interior good, steering wheel peeling, LCD bled, Door trims cracking, some other small imperfections and A/D didnt work.
- Mechanically P/S pump was noisy and it felt slower than my celsior which was a surprising as it had an exhaust yet ran perfectly.
Id say around 500-1000 could get this car in top condition again. It be a good project but only if the person sold it for a more realistic 5-7k not 8k.
Yeah Im going to try test this Limited 1991, with 100kms in mint condition as described from a trading site. Should be interesting as Ive never been in a low Km limited so hopefully it will be an exceptional example. Asking 8k for it so its reasonable. Owner has not answered phone though which is strange. Might give him a call soon.... |
Matthew Sharpe
Goo Roo
North Island
JZZ31
Posts: 3262
Reg: 10-2005
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Its hard to find a 17 year old car thats in good condition, especially in NZ where the average Kiwi only changes the oil once it's all leaked out the bottom of the engine, and have no idea where to even put transmission fluid.
Used cars are very cheap here, so I think most Kiwi's tend to buy a car and just drive it into the ground, then get another one. |
Andrew Ferres
DieHard
WA
'90 C-F Celsior V8, '84 Soarer V8, '91 Supra V8
Posts: 733
Reg: 07-2005
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Keep the Celsior and get a RalliArt VR4 Legnum. |
Darryn Dewar
DieHard
Gisborne
UZZ30 Soarer
Posts: 886
Reg: 09-2005
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Gregg Holden wrote on Monday, December 17, 2007 - 03:35 pm:Seriously?... The examples over there must be getting really bad. Given the condition of that with frayed seatbelts, steering wheel worn to the bone, peeling paint et al I would have placed it in the "Above average example from the wreckers"....
Definitely have a good look around.. A really clean UZZ31 should impress - even stock... I really hope you find better examples!!
Unfortunately the majority of work done on cars on our roads are because the vehicle failed its 6 monthly warrant, or it's stopped working, especially in the cheaper brackets, in which the majority of Soarers are in. Most people can't justify spending $3-4k on a car that's worth about the same. |
Patrick Robinson
Tinkerer
New Providence
Soarer TT
Posts: 44
Reg: 09-2007
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 TT, TT, TT, TT
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Rob Andreacchio
Goo Roo
Victoria
Posts: 3084
Reg: 01-2005
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I'm loving the whine of the M90.... now to make it LOUDER!!
Blown V8 FTW!! |
Mike Beck
Goo Roo
New Zealand
Celsior UCF11 V8
Posts: 1732
Reg: 11-2005
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Rob Andreacchio wrote on Wednesday, December 19, 2007 - 01:57 am:I'm loving the whine of the M90.... now to make it LOUDER!!
Blown V8 FTW!!
Mmmm It could be a possibility as Ill have the funds to do it next year. I think M90 is the best to go, Centrifugal is rather cluttered and fiddly. Different chargers anyway. Ive heard 1UZ's suit positive displacement chargers best anyway? |
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