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Ben Gair
Tinkerer
W.A
Liberty
Posts: 19
Reg: 08-2006
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I was always under the impression that the v8 and tt soarer's were classified as high powered vehicles in VIC. Consequently, p plate drivers were not allowed to drive these vehicles.
After perusing the web, I don't think this is the case. Providing the cars aren't modified, the power to weight ratio doesn't exceed 135kw per ton.
Keeping in mind the law is different for p plate drivers who obtained their license after July 1 2007, am I correct in saying this? |
Miles Baker
Goo Roo
Vic
66 Mustang GT Convertible, 55 Chevy Bel Air, 69 Firebird 455, 73 Corvette 4sp T-Tops
Posts: 1097
Reg: 08-2005
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But the rule is 125kw/tonne not 135?? That's for people who already had their Ps. That would make the V8 legal but the TT just illegal I think.
Got your Ps after 1 July 07? Both are illegal.
Interestingly the Aurion would have been illegal under the old system (127 - 130 kw/t depending on trim), but is now legal for both pre and post 1/7/07 P platers. |
Kyle Wathen
TryHard
Vic
GTTL
Posts: 359
Reg: 02-2007
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Mile's is right, its 125kw/tonne. Therefore only TT are illegal before 1/7/07. |
Ben Gair
Tinkerer
W.A
Liberty
Posts: 20
Reg: 08-2006
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Apologies. I misread it and it is 125kw/tonne.
Cheers for the help though folks. |
Alan Chow
DieHard
Vic
GTT-L
Posts: 584
Reg: 12-2006
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if you go for the non turbo 3l version you'll be right but honestly who gives a ••••• i had my soarer since day one of my p's and have been pulled over on a monthly basis without the cops telling me off. |
Mike Beck
Goo Roo
New Zealand
Soarer JZZ31 I6
Posts: 1835
Reg: 11-2005
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How long does the P Plater license system work over your way?
Its quite different here In NZ, anyone can own anything which is quite scary to say the least, especially when alot of people have little driving experience from their recent previous country of origin where high performance vehicles are a rarity and in most cases they dont even use cars on a day to day basis!
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Miles Baker
Goo Roo
Vic
66 Mustang GT Convertible, 55 Chevy Bel Air, 69 Firebird 455, 73 Corvette 4sp T-Tops
Posts: 1099
Reg: 08-2005
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Alan
They are apparently getting keen to crack down on it again, because the penalty has been changed from $100/0 points to $1000/3 points I think. |
Glen Muller
Tinkerer
Victoria
V8 Soarer UZZ31
Posts: 87
Reg: 12-2007
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Funny, because a learner can drive your beast under your supervision, then the day they get their probationary licence it's suddenly illegal, regardless of supervision or none. |
Glen Muller
Tinkerer
Victoria
V8 Soarer UZZ31
Posts: 88
Reg: 12-2007
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Oh and another point - Soarers are high powered, yet you can ride a Honda CBR250RR or an Aprilia RS250 when you're 17 and 9 months, and those things have ridiculous power to weight ratios. What's more, 90% of the kids buying these things have had screw all to do with bikes. When I got my bike L's I had the sense to get something a little more toned-down, even though my old man had me riding 900cc Fireblades and 1000cc V-twin thumpers when I was 15. I opted for a Yamaha Zeal - outhandled anything but didn't have the same 0-60 figures as other 250 sports bikes on the market.
Just what you need - to be dead before your 18th birthday. |
Justin Burnes
Tinkerer
nsw
soarer v8 limited
Posts: 28
Reg: 11-2007
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Personally i think p-platers should be happy that these restrictions are there, but then its not going to stop them driving like knobs in any car i suppose. |
Glen Muller
Tinkerer
Victoria
V8 Soarer UZZ31
Posts: 92
Reg: 12-2007
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True Justin - 5 cars were impounded over the weekend here in Bendigo, Vic. None of them were Soarers! All dickheads in Commodores doing "sideways action" on the wet roads. |
Callum Finch
Goo Roo
WA
Soarer TT & Corolla
Posts: 3719
Reg: 09-2005
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There are plenty of dick heads who drive Soarers; dont be fooled.
And someone please correct me if im wrong, but what sort of ratio of accidents to riders do high powered bikes have compared to high powered cars?
I'm all for limiting learner and probationary drivers.
I think the govt. should go a step further however and encourage advanced safe driving courses more. |
Justin Burnes
Tinkerer
nsw
soarer v8 limited
Posts: 29
Reg: 11-2007
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i completely agree callum, advanced safe driving courses should be compulsory.
But its never going to stop the wankers showing off and killing themselves.
everytime i hear about a p-plater not happy with getting caught by the cops, i have no sympathy, if they've been pulled over its for good reason. |
Justin Burnes
Tinkerer
nsw
soarer v8 limited
Posts: 30
Reg: 11-2007
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Perhaps they should just restrict bogans. Problem solved. Ha ha |
Alan Chow
DieHard
Vic
GTT-L
Posts: 588
Reg: 12-2006
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If you drive like a dickhead and you get caught its your fault. Theres no one to blame but yourself. The rules are there for a reason.
honestly i myself have lost my licence a few times and i have learnt from those experiances. I used to think that i was invincible but now i've matured.
So yeah... guess the systems working |
Callum Finch
Goo Roo
WA
Soarer TT & Corolla
Posts: 3721
Reg: 09-2005
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Justin Burnes wrote on Tuesday, January 22, 2008 - 03:23 pm:
Of course; and its incredibly silly and infuriating for me when i hear comments thrown around in any circle about how people in positions of power should do 'x y and z' to resolve particular issues and expect that there will not be exceptions.... |
Justin Burnes
Tinkerer
nsw
soarer v8 limited
Posts: 31
Reg: 11-2007
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cops have a job to do, and yeah there are a few bad eggs but they've got a hard job. |
Glen Muller
Tinkerer
Victoria
V8 Soarer UZZ31
Posts: 96
Reg: 12-2007
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Callum Finch wrote on Tuesday, January 22, 2008 - 01:30 pm:There are plenty of dick heads who drive Soarers; dont be fooled.
Not here... this is Boganville, Vic.
Justin Burnes wrote on Tuesday, January 22, 2008 - 03:26 pm:Perhaps they should just restrict bogans. Problem solved.
If they did that, I could shoot a cannon up High St and hit nothing but oxygen! |
Justin Burnes
Tinkerer
nsw
soarer v8 limited
Posts: 32
Reg: 11-2007
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nothin wrong with that glen, at least then i'd only have old people to worry about when i'm driving. |
Glen Muller
Tinkerer
Victoria
V8 Soarer UZZ31
Posts: 99
Reg: 12-2007
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Only on Sundays, too! |
Phil Stuart
Tinkerer
NSW
Soarer 1x TT JZZ30, 1 x RAV4 and 2 Jack Russels
Posts: 69
Reg: 10-2006
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Justin Burnes wrote on Tuesday, January 22, 2008 - 03:26 pm:Perhaps they should just restrict bogans. Problem solved. Ha ha
If we could isolate the "bogan gene", we would be ok. A sensor in any "higher powered" car that detects the "bogan gene" cuts out. Sort of like a fuel cut, except its a dick head cut! |
Glen Muller
TryHard
Victoria
V8 Soarer UZZ31
Posts: 101
Reg: 12-2007
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I've been into Centrelink a few too many times for my liking recently, accompanying my girlfriend regarding her injury payout. THE FRIGGIN SCUM IN THERE! I swear there should be a screening process to determine IQ, then de-sex the bastards on the spot.
Centrelink would be a much quieter place without all those malnourished screaming brats and 50,000,000 ferals trying to get out of keeping a job seeker diary, and the government would have about a billion dollars left in the budget to spend on education or something else more important than giving people free alcohol and weed.
PS. Jeez I sound opinionated. |
Phil Stuart
Tinkerer
NSW
Soarer 1x TT JZZ30, 1 x RAV4 and 2 Jack Russels
Posts: 71
Reg: 10-2006
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Glen Muller wrote on Thursday, January 24, 2008 - 11:31 am:PS. Jeez I sound opinionated.
But I think most people would agree with you. I've always worked, or ran my own business, never had to deal with centrelink.
The government is just a hinderance and a pain in the ass to small businesses. Not to mention all the bludgers around. Look in the sydney papers each day, there are hundreds of jobs EACH DAY, so dont let anyone tell you there is no jobs about..
I agree that more money should go into (public) education, hospitals etc, and not to dope smoking drop-kicks, or politicians pockets.
Grrrrr....
end rant! |
Glen Muller
TryHard
Victoria
V8 Soarer UZZ31
Posts: 103
Reg: 12-2007
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Phil Stuart wrote on Thursday, January 24, 2008 - 11:38 am:so dont let anyone tell you there is no jobs about..
Easy excuse for people who don't want to trade in doing whatever you like for waking up at 6am to go to work. If they just tried it for a fortnight, they'll have money practically coming out of their ears, compared to the crap allowance you get from Centrelink. I don't know how I got by all last year without my part time job... $338 a fortnight is such a pittance. I just have to be patient; when I finish Uni the reward will be worth it! |
Justin Burnes
Tinkerer
nsw
soarer v8 limited
Posts: 33
Reg: 11-2007
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i lived on the doll for about 8 months while i was living in country nsw and i know how difficult it is to get by, but when someone tells me they can't find work i've just got to think your just not looking hard enough.
i suppose not many bogans can afford to drive a soarer on the doll which is a good thing... at least it keeps the cops targeting vk commodores and xf falcons.
i wonder if the doll bludgers even realise there's something wrong when everytime they walk into centrelink to hand in their form they know everyone there by their first name... hahaha |
Maurice Diggler
Goo Roo
Victoria
TR44HF
Posts: 1695
Reg: 06-2006
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Glen Muller wrote on Wednesday, January 23, 2008 - 12:31 pm:Not here... this is Boganville, Vic.
I agree 10000% Glen, when I went up there the other week, I was working by the main street in a door way and this blue magna wagon and a black VR/S SS with a baby in the back seat were doing laps around the main street for about 2 hours...
Such bogans! I wasn't in my Soarer though, didn't see one import the whole time though, nothing but commodores. |
Glen Muller
TryHard
Victoria
V8 Soarer UZZ31
Posts: 106
Reg: 12-2007
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Sounds like my hometown. I hate this hole. |
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