Tuesday, November 29, 2005 - 07:36 am, by: Dave Hart(Davyboy)
The new Lexus IS250/350 looks nice but I heard the Toyota V6's weren't that good or are these engines a totally new type? In which case they'd be unproven not like our straight 6's or V8's that seem to go forever.
Dave I had one of the first wide body Camry V6 and is thad the same motor as the ES300. Top car and great engine, when I traded it in, it had move than 250,000kms and still going strong.
Tuesday, November 29, 2005 - 11:52 am, by: Benny Gammelmark(Oldfield)
I don't agree on that the Camry V6 was a great engine. It was a reliable engine that lasted longer than the car but it was totally gutless.
Try comparing the Camry V6 engine to the Nissan Maxima V6 (3L as well) and you'll see the difference. The Maxima V6 is almost unbreakable as well (and actually much better value for money, ask Jeff).
I think the IS-engines are a lot better than the Camry ones in terms of performance. The 350-engine looks like a beaut.
Benny when they release the wide body camry they had to import the V6 engine from Japan, then after a couple of year Toyota started to make them in there own new factory here in Melbourne. The Japanese one is better than the Australian and it was a smooth engine and went well. This is the picture I took of it after having in for 10 years and just about to be traded in!
Tuesday, November 29, 2005 - 12:44 pm, by: Ray Crawford(Ray)
My brother is getting a new IS250 next year. He brought around a demo car and I took it for a run. Wow! what a car, it goes hard and with the six speed auto it's had to pick what gear you're in. There is no key, just walk up to the IS250 with the remote in your pocket and open the door. You press a start/stop button on the dash and away you go. Handles and rides great. Smooth and quiet. My wife's Sonata V6 is also 2.5 litres, but goes nothing like the IS250. I'd love one but $60,000 is geting a bit high. I'll get my brother's when he's finished with it.
3VZ was a horrible engine. I had one self destruct on me. Car was bought from new, and had 60,000km on it at the time. Ended up with 3 pieces of engine block, 2 sheared rods, and 12 holes in the block. Nasty piece of work, and Toyota didn't want to have a bar of it since it was 6 months out of warranty (only exceeded the time warranty, 4 years, not the 85,000km one). Needless to say, I wasn't too impressed.
Damian Ware wrote on Wednesday, November 30, 2005 - 07:43 am:
The V6 engine from the camry is the most reliable engine in the world
Pretty bold statement considering what I wrote above, and know of at least one other occurrence of this happening in my suburb alone.
The 1MZ-FE is a whole different kettle of fish however. Very strong & reliable engine. Rumour has it that it is based on the 1UZ-FE with 2 cylinders lopped off.
Wednesday, November 30, 2005 - 09:22 am, by: David Vaughan(Davidv)
There are models of the IS250 retailing up to $80K, and coming standard with 17" and 18" wheels up to 225 front and 255 rear rather than the puny standard 205 on 16". The all have the same power though, and get heavier and therefore slower with price. The IS250 has nearly the same power as my 300 but the car is bigger and even the base model weighs more.
Wednesday, November 30, 2005 - 12:20 pm, by: Cihan Aday(Cihan)
Its a pretty heavy car to carry about (1525-1600+ kg) for a small V6
Nice trim and look though, im sure it would make a nice 60+k purchase. Although, i would hold out another year and buy a twin turbo 3 series BMW when they come out and are a little cheaper
Wednesday, November 30, 2005 - 12:33 pm, by: Lincoln Carter(Dex)
The IS 250 in the ad on telly looks awesome, will be interesiting to see how hard they go compared to its underpowered predecessor (or did they fix that)
I think i may mosey on down to lexus and take one for a spin
Drove a brand spanking new Hilux for work last week, and geez have they improved that engine fianlly! (v6 4L) every year there is an increase in capcity and everybody thinks, well maybe this time it will finally be better...
Well this time it is! great engine, nice ute... still utes are not my cup of tea tho... i cant stress how much i hate those lowered fully sic ones crawling around on our roads. the only 4wd ute if you are serious, is a turbo diesel... cant 4wd in a petrol! no torque!
I agree that camry engines go forever... in fact all toyota engines go forever.. just look at the 70's corollas with a bazillion kms on them going strong!
My family car was a 1984 Toyota Tarago when i was a whipper snapper, had 400,000kms on the 1.8L engine, never missed a beat... traded that in for a 1997 VS Calais (arguably the best commodore made) once we hit 100,000kms, it just went to shizer.. couldn;t get rid of it quick enough!
Wednesday, November 30, 2005 - 12:48 pm, by: David Vaughan(Davidv)
The possible BMW will not be cheaper so there is no point holding your breath. If you think the 153KW V6 is dragging a lot of weight, you obviously have not driven a comparable 3 series. Even the underpowered IS200 so comprehensively blew away the then BMW318/320 that for a magazine road comparison BMW famously insisted on providing a 325 to compete on performance, despite a $20K price difference which put the cars in different markets.
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