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Nye Phillips
Tinkerer
Montpellier France
2.5 TT

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Reg: 06-2008

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Friday, October 24, 2008 - 04:51 am, by:  Nye Phillips (Nye) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have searched for an answer and nothing answers this one!
Hi maybe you guys (girls) can help, I have no hot air, when I turn the heating to hot, on comes the fan and savagely blows cold air, switch on aircon and now freezing cold air even when on hot! When I turn off the aircon the car will not idle - making driving in town a misery as it keeps stalling.
I do get an occasional trickling sound when driving, but there are no leaks. The temp gauge reads normal so no overheating.
I have checked the vsv valve and it opens and shuts when I switch from hot to cold.
So could it be an airlock, if so how do I sort it on a TT, it seems easy on a v8, my wife and daughter refuse to go with me until I sort it (is that a bad or good thing! ) please guys, I really need some help on this one!
Grant Rowan
TryHard
QLD
jzz30 TR44HF

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Friday, October 24, 2008 - 06:45 am, by:  Grant Rowan (Booster13psi) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It could be a vapour lock or just crap blocking your heater core. I would disconnect the hoses going to the heater core at the firewall and flush it.

With the Idol it sounds like you need a new idol solenoid. When mine died I just manually adjusted up the idol on accelerator cable at the plenum.
Nye Phillips
Tinkerer
Montpellier France
2.5 TT

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Friday, October 24, 2008 - 07:29 am, by:  Nye Phillips (Nye) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thank you I will take a look tomorrow and let you know how I get on..
Nye Phillips
Tinkerer
Montpellier France
2.5 TT

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Friday, October 24, 2008 - 07:45 pm, by:  Nye Phillips (Nye) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

well today I changed the idle solenoid - no change there, I then disconnected the outlet pipe from the heater and it is flowing fine and getting hot part number 87246e
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/noctiluca/Soarer/EXtoyota4/localf~1/download/extoyo~1/wwwelc~1.ru/toyot a/full~122.htm

so if hot water is going through and the fan is blowing well, why am I not getting hot air... gggrrr
Peter Nitschke
Junk Filterer
South Australia
UZZ30 UZZ31

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Saturday, October 25, 2008 - 12:40 am, by:  Peter Nitschke (Pen) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

There is probably an internal vent flap that direct air through the heater matrix or not. Possibly that is stuck. No idea how to confirm that though. :-(
Nye Phillips
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Montpellier France
2.5 TT

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Saturday, October 25, 2008 - 12:53 am, by:  Nye Phillips (Nye) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi thanks, now that's something I didn't think of, I am off to do some research.....
Nye Phillips
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Montpellier France
2.5 TT

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Saturday, October 25, 2008 - 04:17 am, by:  Nye Phillips (Nye) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Cant find any info out there about that, :-( but does anyone know, - the vacuum is moving open and shut when I switch from hot to cold, but the actual black "rubber" cylinder attached to the solenoid does not move, is it supposed to? How do I bleed the matrix?? I have found out how to do it on a V8 but a TT nope???
Peter Nitschke
Junk Filterer
South Australia
UZZ30 UZZ31

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Saturday, October 25, 2008 - 04:22 am, by:  Peter Nitschke (Pen) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

How did you actually test water flow through the heater pipes?

I would remove the radiator cap and hook a hose to one of the heater pipes.

Just a thought, if the engine is hot and you have the heater on, are the pipes going to the heater also getting hot?
Nye Phillips
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Montpellier France
2.5 TT

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Saturday, October 25, 2008 - 06:23 am, by:  Nye Phillips (Nye) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

yes the water coming out of the matrix is hot.. should I still do the hose thing?
Nye Phillips
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Montpellier France
2.5 TT

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Tuesday, October 28, 2008 - 06:40 am, by:  Nye Phillips (Nye) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I fully understand if you have given up on me.. it is a tricky one
Peter Nitschke
Junk Filterer
South Australia
UZZ30 UZZ31

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Tuesday, October 28, 2008 - 07:02 am, by:  Peter Nitschke (Pen) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Not that, just remote diagnosing/fixing is very difficult.

If you are convinced that hot water is flowing through the heater, then that would only leave a stuck vent flap not allowing air to go through the heater.
Nye Phillips
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Montpellier France
2.5 TT

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Tuesday, October 28, 2008 - 10:02 am, by:  Nye Phillips (Nye) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks Peter, yes the water coming out is red hot and under pressure - now how would I go about finding that troublesome flap sounds like it could be an answer?
Nye Phillips
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Montpellier France
2.5 TT

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Tuesday, October 28, 2008 - 10:04 am, by:  Nye Phillips (Nye) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Help, I need a diagram of the heater assembly, any offers???
Diane Kiernan
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NSW
Soarer 6 Cyl

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Sunday, May 26, 2013 - 04:02 pm, by:  Diane Kiernan (Pretty_ugly) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I took my car for a service and coolant change, and I drove home without a heater! Checked all the pipes from the radiator to and from the heater thingy on the fire wall (all hot) when I got home, so am guessing it may be the elusive vent flap...

Is the flap under the dash somewhere? I'm sure there is a nice guy out there that would like to advise a mature blonde woman!
Boris Siljanoski
Goo Roo
Western Australia
LS400 + Soarer.

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Sunday, May 26, 2013 - 05:39 pm, by:  Boris Siljanoski (Z2tt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

If hot water is flowing through the heater core it is either the motor for the mixer flap faulty, linkage faulty, or a faulty climate control unit or any of the wires leading to that motor for that flap.
Tom Richards
Goo Roo
nsw
V8

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Monday, May 27, 2013 - 07:36 am, by:  Tom Richards (Tomr) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

you need to bleed all the air out of the system thru the bleeder bolt on top of the thermostat.
Boris Siljanoski
Goo Roo
Western Australia
LS400 + Soarer.

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Monday, May 27, 2013 - 07:56 pm, by:  Boris Siljanoski (Z2tt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

the Turbos don't have a Bolt on the top of the thermostat. Ensure your coolant level is good in radiator and overflow tank.
Peter Nitschke
Junk Filterer
South Australia
UZZ30 UZZ31

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Tuesday, June 04, 2013 - 02:15 am, by:  Peter Nitschke (Pen) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Check the cabin air filters? There is a tutorial available.

https://soarercentral.com/sc-forum/messages/10/31.html
Steve Gorman
TryHard
NSW
V8

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Tuesday, June 04, 2013 - 02:09 pm, by:  Steve Gorman (Steve_gorman) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The comment made by Peter Nitschke about a flap not opening is correct. I had this on my uzz31.
The vsv worked and hot water flowed thru the heater matrix BUT because the flap did not open there was no hot air.
The flap is operated by a small electric servo motor.There are in fact 3 servo's for opening and directing air. If you look at the pictures on
www.toyodiy.com you can work it out.
It is possible to change the servo motor without removing the whole aircon unit but it is very time consuming and frustrating.
I had a spare servo but I would be suprised if you cannot find another toyota with the same part.
good luck Steve

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