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Jeff Bedsor
TryHard
QLD
TT
Posts: 103
Reg: 10-2006
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Seeing as we lost the last few weeks of posts and I didn't want to butt in on Daniel's thread again, I thought I would start a new thread where everyone can post their times, experiences, ways to make a Soarer go faster, handy hints etc. Generally everything and anything related to drag racing. |
Luke Nieuwhof
Goo Roo
WA
Soarer TT
Posts: 2181
Reg: 07-2005
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So much to write...people say its easy but there's a lot to it.
For beginners a few handy hints:
Don't do massive smoky burnouts on street tyres. A quick spin to clean off dirt is all that is needed.
Come into stage VERY slowly, don't just rush in. Shallow staging (where you barely bring on the bottom staging light) will get you quicker times.
Power OFF, overdrive OFF seems to be best for stock-ish combinations.
Remove any weight possible. Spare tyre and tools in the back at least. Also CDs and mats are easy to take out and provide a bit of a weight saving. |
Jeff Bedsor
TryHard
QLD
TT
Posts: 104
Reg: 10-2006
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I suppose because I started this off, I had better post my best time and thoughts.
Best to date is 12.746, 1.729 60ft @ 106.6 mph.
I improved by .5 sec by just learning how to stall it up properly (about 3400rpm) and to do a good burnout without any other mods. My son advised to try and continue right through the start line with the burnout (only allowable with drag radials or slicks) and then come back along the line you have made. Without a doubt it worked as I knocked .3 of a sec off my previous best 60 ft.
Just fitted HkS cam gears yesterday, exhaust retarded to 6 degrees, I have noticed a big difference in mid to high power. The only downside is the flames out the exhaust when I back off quickly. Looks cool though. |
Benjamin Burgess
Goo Roo
NSW
Toyota Soarer GT-TL, Toyota Corolla Conquest
Posts: 1453
Reg: 07-2005
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Best to date of 11.423 @ 118.94 with a 1.587 60ft on street tyres (MT ET's). Looking to go a 10.x soon with some slight weight reduction, more power and a shot of GAS. |
Daniel Clarke
Goo Roo
NSW
TT 2.5L 6 cylinder
Posts: 2046
Reg: 03-2006
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Have gone a best of 12.18 @ 113.07mph with a 1.700 60 footer.
Since then i have upped the boost and fitted an exhaust cam gear at 6 deg retarded and also a Blitz Access Ecu so no more Speed cut!!!!
Should run 12.0's and hopefully crack the magic 11.9something with some track time up my sleeve |
Dale Holan
Tinkerer
Alberta
2.5 GTT L
Posts: 28
Reg: 06-2007
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So what is the proper way to 'stall it up'? |
Callum Finch
Goo Roo
WA
Soarer TT & Corolla
Posts: 3164
Reg: 09-2005
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Dale Holan wrote on Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 01:04 am:So what is the proper way to 'stall it up'?
Feet on both pedals. |
Benjamin Burgess
Goo Roo
NSW
Toyota Soarer GT-TL, Toyota Corolla Conquest
Posts: 1454
Reg: 07-2005
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Foot on brake, hold the handbrake, stall it up on about 1/2 throttle. |
Brendan Hax
TryHard
QLD
JZX90 Chaser Tourer-V
Posts: 155
Reg: 07-2005
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I've run a 13.8 @ 105mph, but had a shocking 2.38 60ft (basically bald street tyres) |
Luke Nieuwhof
Goo Roo
WA
Soarer TT
Posts: 2185
Reg: 07-2005
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This is where you eventually end up.
7.3sec, 190mph, game over.
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Joe Radisic
TryHard
WA
2JZ GTE
Posts: 336
Reg: 10-2006
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No game over that's probably close to where he started! |
Daniel Clarke
Goo Roo
NSW
TT 2.5L 6 cylinder
Posts: 2049
Reg: 03-2006
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Cant wait to see Tony Wedlock in his new Toyota |
Brian Kelly
Tinkerer
Colorado USA
JZZ31
Posts: 38
Reg: 04-2007
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My best time is a 16.945 @ 83.76 with a 2.505 60ft.  If I were at sea level maybe I would have a more decent time (minus .5-1 second). I usually rev up to 3-4k rpm, and "slip" the clutch the best I can with a 130k mile old stocker. |
Aaron Mead
Goo Roo
NT
TT
Posts: 1638
Reg: 03-2006
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Mark Northcot ran a 13.8 in his Uzz30 last night.... |
Shane Crichton
TryHard
NSW
Cressida Turbo
Posts: 146
Reg: 03-2006
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Luke Nieuwhof wrote on Wednesday, July 18, 2007 - 03:55 pm:Shallow staging (where you barely bring on the bottom staging light) will get you quicker times.
this isnt true. |
Luke Nieuwhof
Goo Roo
WA
Soarer TT
Posts: 2195
Reg: 07-2005
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Shane, yes it is. Do some searching on roll out and how it will affect your ETs. |
Steven Nanevski
Goo Roo
New South Wales
HKS T3G equipped TT coming soon... 
Posts: 1339
Reg: 07-2005
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Luke Nieuwhof wrote on Monday, July 23, 2007 - 06:14 pm:Shane, yes it is. Do some searching on roll out and how it will affect your ETs
No offense but you are trying to give advice to the owner of Australia's fastest Cressida about 1/4 mile racing when only god will know how many passes he has done in it...
Sorry dude but all I have to do is  |
Luke Nieuwhof
Goo Roo
WA
Soarer TT
Posts: 2201
Reg: 07-2005
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Steven Nanevski wrote on Monday, July 23, 2007 - 10:50 pm:No offense but you are trying to give advice to the owner of Australia's fastest Cressida about 1/4 mile racing when only god will know how many passes he has done in it...
Sorry dude but all I have to do is
No offence but you are trying to give advice to the writer of a weekly drag racing column in The West Australian newspaper, operator of wadragracing.com and racer for several seasons as well as the offspring of two Modified Bike drag racers who are state champions several times over.
I know my •••• don't worry. |
Simon Triantafillou
Goo Roo
NSW
Soarer Turbo
Posts: 1137
Reg: 07-2005
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My best time is a miserable 13.2 @ 124mph 
Wheelspin in 1st -> 4th gears (~350m) isn't fun  |
Jeff Bedsor
TryHard
QLD
TT
Posts: 111
Reg: 10-2006
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Have a look at this page guys, even though it is American it still explains the concepts well.
http://www.staginglight.com/guide/ |
Callum Finch
Goo Roo
WA
Soarer TT & Corolla
Posts: 3173
Reg: 09-2005
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Luke Nieuwhof wrote on Monday, July 23, 2007 - 11:13 pm:No offence but you are trying to give advice to the writer of a weekly drag racing column in The West Australian newspaper, operator of wadragracing.com and racer for several seasons as well as the offspring of two Modified Bike drag racers who are state champions several times over.
I know my •••• don't worry.
=) |
Steven Nanevski
Goo Roo
New South Wales
HKS T3G equipped TT coming soon...
Posts: 1342
Reg: 07-2005
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Luke Nieuwhof wrote on Monday, July 23, 2007 - 11:13 pm:No offence but you are trying to give advice to the writer of a weekly drag racing column in The West Australian newspaper, operator of wadragracing.com and racer for several seasons as well as the offspring of two Modified Bike drag racers who are state champions several times over.
I know my •••• don't worry.
Well now we have a moral delima now, I guess everyone has there own ways, people may agree with their ways, other people don't, I guess find whats best and what works and use it, no matter what anyone says.... |
Luke Nieuwhof
Goo Roo
WA
Soarer TT
Posts: 2203
Reg: 07-2005
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True Steven. But have a look on the net about roll out and the way the staging beams work. By shallow staging it is effectively the smallest of rolling starts and can be worth different amounts of time, depending on the roll out of the car. This is all fact, no two ways about it. |
Shane Ilich
Goo Roo
W.A.
Manual Single T
Posts: 1616
Reg: 07-2005
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Simon Triantafillou wrote on Monday, July 23, 2007 - 11:18 pm:My best time is a miserable 13.2 @ 124mph
Wheelspin in 1st -> 4th gears (~350m) isn't fun :-(
BAH - thats nothing. Try a 15.4 with wheelspin through all 4 gears, and the ass-end waggling away up the quarter
My best is a 13.2, 2.6sec 60' time, 110.1mph trap speed. My excuse is I'm manual, and that was with a brass-button single plate clutch, and was run on crappy hard old 255/40 street tyres.
Have to see whether my new clutch (quad plate) and box (R154) setup is a bit more launchable. |
Callum Finch
Goo Roo
WA
Soarer TT & Corolla
Posts: 3178
Reg: 09-2005
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Luke Nieuwhof wrote on Tuesday, July 24, 2007 - 01:26 pm:True Steven. But have a look on the net about roll out and the way the staging beams work.
If you think about how it works in theory, mathematically you have to receive a lower time.. even if its in the 10,000ths of a second scale... |
Braden Murdoch
DieHard
NSW
Cressida 1JZ TT
Posts: 642
Reg: 04-2006
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Since replacing the stuffed factory front struts with Pedders comfort gas ones, I've started suffering axle tramp. Any tips on reducing this?
Stuff I am thinking of trying:
Put factory front springs back in
Put harder shocks in the rear (or coilovers?)
Put in urethane control arm bushes/stiffen up the rear end
I want this thing to hook up nicely |
Blake Gloyn
Tinkerer
manawatu
soarer JZZ30 TT
Posts: 99
Reg: 02-2006
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Shane's suspension guys spent quite a bit of time with him from what i understand,and he has got good improvements. Don't know if he wants to share all that development of his tho. However, his 9 sec car probably doesn't feel threatened by your car,cool tho it is. perhaps park it by his car overnight,and hope they breed! |
Shane Ilich
Goo Roo
W.A.
Manual Single T
Posts: 1618
Reg: 07-2005
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From my experience, stiffening up the rear too much leads to too much wheelspin on launches, you're kind of better off leaving it a bit softer and letting it squat. |
Braden Murdoch
DieHard
NSW
Cressida 1JZ TT
Posts: 643
Reg: 04-2006
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From what I hear, squat is bad, but weight transfer is good...I guess it is all about finding a happy medium somewhere
Yeah Shane wasn't interested in sharing the info |
Peter Nitschke
Junk Filterer
South Australia
GT4.0 V8
Posts: 8091
Reg: 11-2004
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Squat is weight transfer. |
Shane Ilich
Goo Roo
W.A.
Manual Single T
Posts: 1619
Reg: 07-2005
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Yeah, thats my take on it. Having softer suspension in the rear will allow the suspension to absorb the weight transfer as you accelerate forward, maintaining maximum tyre traction by shifting the weight of the car towards the rear, placing greater down force on the wheels.
Rock hard suspension at the rear end will just result in wheelspin, as there's no transfer of weight over the back wheels, so they just spin up.
Braden, your new front shocks may be too stiff or too "short", and not allowing the front end to be pulled up, essentially also preventing the weight transfer over the back wheels to happen?? Factory front springs would be my suggestion. |
Adam Peterson
DieHard
Western Australia
Bugatti Veyron
Posts: 850
Reg: 04-2006
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Whats the standard time for a V8 auto down the 1/4 with intake and exhaust ? |
Maurice Diggler
Goo Roo
Victoria
Twin Turbo
Posts: 1389
Reg: 06-2006
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Shane Ilich wrote on Tuesday, July 24, 2007 - 01:43 pm:My best is a 13.2, 2.6sec 60' time, 110.1mph trap speed.
If you are wheelspinning every gear running a mere 110mph when compared to simons 124mph I suggest you get some new tyres. |
Luke Nieuwhof
Goo Roo
WA
Soarer TT
Posts: 2210
Reg: 07-2005
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Shane Ilich wrote on Tuesday, July 24, 2007 - 01:43 pm:and was run on crappy hard old 255/40 street tyres.
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Shane Ilich
Goo Roo
W.A.
Manual Single T
Posts: 1621
Reg: 07-2005
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Maurice, new tyres are already bought mate.
And yes, one day I will get around to borrowing a set of r-comps or street slicks and getting a decent time out of her. |
Daniel Clarke
Goo Roo
NSW
TT 2.5L 6 cylinder
Posts: 2069
Reg: 03-2006
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All i can say is.....WOW!
https://soarercentral.com/sc-forum/messages/287/167755.html?1185367961 |
Benjamin Burgess
Goo Roo
NSW
Toyota Soarer GT-TL, Toyota Corolla Conquest
Posts: 1464
Reg: 07-2005
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Very nice man, congrats. Making me excited at how much time I can get from weight reduction and cam gears.
I got my Jun cam gears today |
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