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Graham Dollisson
DieHard
QLD
I have more Leylands than Don

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Wednesday, April 12, 2006 - 01:29 pm, by: Graham Dollisson (Alloyvee)

hehehe

Jeff Harper
Trader
NSW
UZZ32 Active V8

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Wednesday, April 12, 2006 - 01:33 pm, by: Jeff Harper (Jeffh)

I get 330k out of 68 liters of unleaded or 4.85k to the litre or 20.6l to 100k.

I think my '32 is a bit expensive to run. 27 cents per k.

Will Adams
TryHard
WA
Soarer GT-TL

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Wednesday, April 12, 2006 - 02:12 pm, by: Will Adams (Draco)

Heavy foot there Jeff?

Katrina Bruns
TryHard
SD
Cobalt LS 2.2 L

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Reg: 08-2005

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Wednesday, April 12, 2006 - 02:20 pm, by: Katrina Bruns (Katrina)

I remember having to fill up my soarer.. it was quite a bit. I now pay $30 USD (approx) for a full tank in the car I currently have

Michael James
Tinkerer
Queensland
V8 UZZ31 Limited

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Reg: 07-2005

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Wednesday, April 12, 2006 - 02:37 pm, by: Michael James (Wildwizard)

I remember when I used to fill up my old HJ Statesman with CNG cost a mere 34.3c/M3 until they decided a price restructure was required for the GST coming in and it went up to the wopping great value of 38c/M3

The only change in price in something like 10 years that they did and it was all of 3.7c.

Average price per KM was around 9c @ 38c/M3 with an old 5L V8 with an equally old 3 speed auto gearbox.

Our government is screwing us so bad it's not funny, you can't buy it any more!!!

Mike Beck
TryHard
New Zeland
Honda

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Wednesday, April 12, 2006 - 03:58 pm, by: Mike Beck (Gold_40gt)

Ive got to that point where I dont really care about how much it costs. Just as long as theres gas in my car.

Lifes to be enjoyed so spend up I say!

Just means Ill have less spare change around!

Adam Lonergan
TryHard
Victoria
UZZ32

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Wednesday, April 12, 2006 - 04:18 pm, by: Adam Lonergan (Alchemistal)

I get 255km from 55L of 98 in my 32 - city driving. So I'm on par with Jeff.

Daniel Czechowski
DieHard
Western Australia
Soarer GT-T

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Wednesday, April 12, 2006 - 04:22 pm, by: Daniel Czechowski (Dan)

Adam Lonergan wrote on Wednesday, April 12, 2006 - 04:18 pm:
I get 255km from 55L of 98 in my 32 - city driving

Are you serious!!! Do 32's use up over 22 L per 100 k's in the city?!? That's as bad as my old bomb XF Falcon! Is that calm driving or full on hooning around though?

Adam Lonergan
TryHard
Victoria
UZZ32

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Wednesday, April 12, 2006 - 04:35 pm, by: Adam Lonergan (Alchemistal)

Daniel, I've only just started driving the car so you can pretty much work that out for yourself

Those figures are with Overdrive OFF and power ON. Am doing another test with these in the opposing positions.

David Vaughan
Goo Roo
ACT
UZZ31 V8 manual and Lexus IS300

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Wednesday, April 12, 2006 - 05:11 pm, by: David Vaughan (Davidv)

Why would you flick a switch to say that you are not allowed to use 4th gear? Leave overdrive on unless specifically changing down to 3rd for a particular purpose.

Jeff Harper
Trader
NSW
UZZ32 Active V8

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Wednesday, April 12, 2006 - 05:13 pm, by: Jeff Harper (Jeffh)

Most of my driving is on the M2 as well, not much traffic. And yes I am a bit quick at the lights, but only WOT a few times.

Daniel Czechowski
DieHard
Western Australia
Soarer GT-T

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Wednesday, April 12, 2006 - 05:21 pm, by: Daniel Czechowski (Dan)

Bugger. That is still lots compared to mine, I had my soarer not that long so I was driving it you know *wink wink nudge nudge* yet it never used more than 17 on WOT etc...

David Vaughan wrote on Wednesday, April 12, 2006 - 05:11 pm:
Why would you flick a switch to say that you are not allowed to use 4th gear? Leave overdrive on unless specifically changing down to 3rd for a particular purpose.

I think you should switch on your overdrive mate, say you're crusing on the freeway at 100 k's steadily with no crazy stuff, you're in third gear as opposed to fourth all the time. Why add an extra 1000 rpm on the clock for no purpose at all. That's probably why you are getting such pathetic fuel consumption

Like David said, it's just fourth gear, nothing less, nothing more hehe

Dan McColl
Goo Roo
Victoria
UZZ-32 V8 Soarer #138

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Wednesday, April 12, 2006 - 08:24 pm, by: Dan McColl (Hoon)

Damn, you guys. I normally get around 500ks around the city, and I have a really heavy foot.

Ben Socratous
TryHard
SA
JZZ30 GT-TL

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Reg: 07-2005

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Wednesday, April 12, 2006 - 09:12 pm, by: Ben Socratous (Socrates)

Dan McColl wrote on Wednesday, April 12, 2006 - 08:24 pm:
Damn, you guys. I normally get around 500ks around the city, and I have a really heavy foot.

And no boot space as you've obviously converted the entire boot to a petty tank!

Ben Socratous
TryHard
SA
JZZ30 GT-TL

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Wednesday, April 12, 2006 - 09:16 pm, by: Ben Socratous (Socrates)

I can go from Adelaide to Ballarat on one tank (however far that is). We just have to face the facts, oil IS RUNNING OUT!!! Prices are only going to continue to go up, not down, EVER!!!

This will not change, unless the yanks give up their passion for tanks and opec decides to lower prices, both of which will never happen. So basically it comes down to this, soarers aren't the best on gas, so shut up and put up, or sell up and get a barina/festiva/excell.

Simple!

Dan McColl
Goo Roo
Victoria
UZZ-32 V8 Soarer #138

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Wednesday, April 12, 2006 - 09:57 pm, by: Dan McColl (Hoon)

Or if someone in australia starts mining the huge, ginormous oil reserves under the great barrier reef.

Someone obviously is profiteering, last I heard we export LPG to Japan for about 5 cpl.

Michael James
Tinkerer
Queensland
V8 UZZ31 Limited

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Wednesday, April 12, 2006 - 10:46 pm, by: Michael James (Wildwizard)

Dan we export LNG not LPG

And it's sold in M3 quantities

And why doesn't this technical forum allow us to use super/sub script?

Emanuel Spinola
Moderator
NSW
JZZ30, UZZ32

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Reg: 07-2005

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Wednesday, April 12, 2006 - 11:02 pm, by: Emanuel Spinola (Manny)

Michael James wrote on Wednesday, April 12, 2006 - 10:46 pm:
And why doesn't this technical forum allow us to use super/sub script?

Click on the

Formatting Help icon for the syntax

http://soarercentral.com/cgi-bin/sc-forum/discus.cgi?pg=formatting#text

E.g.

And it's sold in M³ quantities

Mike Triggs
DieHard
Norfolk Island
3.0GT G-Pack

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Thursday, April 13, 2006 - 07:43 am, by: Mike Triggs (Mikeandimah)

Dan McColl wrote on Wednesday, April 12, 2006 - 09:57 pm:
Or if someone in australia starts mining the huge, ginormous oil reserves under the great barrier reef.

Someone obviously is profiteering, last I heard we export LPG to Japan for about 5 cpl.

The oil deposits under the reef are unlikely to be mined while Australia retains sovereignty

LNG sent to Japan at that price (if correct) would be for bulk product: wholesale. The stuff one buys at the pumps is subject to excise, taxes and transport costs as well as profit.

Does a bottle of Glenfiddich leave the factory at $70-100? Nope, most of the cost is excise- tax, in other words.

The LNG wouldn't be onsold in Japan for anywhere near 5cpl. The Japanese would add profit, excise, taxes and transport costs to each litre. Most LNG is used for electric power generation, I believe (natural gas can be used in fuel cells, too).

Adam Lonergan
TryHard
Victoria
UZZ32

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Thursday, April 13, 2006 - 07:55 am, by: Adam Lonergan (Alchemistal)

Daniel Czechowski wrote on Wednesday, April 12, 2006 - 05:21 pm:
I think you should switch on your overdrive mate, say you're crusing on the freeway at 100 k's steadily with no crazy stuff, you're in third gear as opposed to fourth all the time. Why add an extra 1000 rpm on the clock for no purpose at all. That's probably why you are getting such pathetic fuel consumption Like David said, it's just fourth gear, nothing less, nothing more hehe

I figure I'd do a bit of an experiment for the greater good of me and the club. Looks like it has generated some knowledge and interest and even a little debate. I'm sure Dan has found it enlightening. I also don't get anywhere with a speed limit higher than 70 km/h in the 20 minutes to work each day so I think 3 gears is OK. It certainly got a good run in 4th from Neils to Melbourne.

Antony Borlase
Tinkerer
QLD
UZZ31

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Thursday, April 13, 2006 - 08:08 am, by: Antony Borlase (Borlase)

Don't you mean "m³"

'M'=mega not meters

Mike Triggs
DieHard
Norfolk Island
3.0GT G-Pack

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Thursday, April 13, 2006 - 08:42 am, by: Mike Triggs (Mikeandimah)

Ben Socratous wrote on Wednesday, April 12, 2006 - 09:16 pm:
This will not change, unless the yanks give up their passion for tanks and opec decides to lower prices, both of which will never happen. So basically it comes down to this, soarers aren't the best on gas, so shut up and put up, or sell up and get a barina/festiva/excell

It's not just the Yanks' passion for huge donks which makes them big energy users. They drive a lot for pleasure, too. Plus they have high energy uses in other areas. Australia isn't that far behind though.

Venezuela has, apparently, vast reserves, but, like much of the Middle East, is at the moment anti-Western.

Like Australia, Canada has vast reserves of oil shales. The problem for us at least is the expense of extracting the oil, it's a dirty process, and the dross piles are enormous- the shales expand on heating and you end up with more waste than the ore you started with. At least you don't have to worry about leaving a hole after you finish!

It's about time this country looked serious ly at nuclear power generation, saving our best coal for export (steelmaking) and turning into motor spirit. It's stupid to sit on the world's biggest supply of uranium while not using the stuff ourselves. We are stable geologically as well as politically, unlike Iran, which claims to want nuclear power for electricity.

Mike Triggs
DieHard
Norfolk Island
3.0GT G-Pack

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Thursday, April 13, 2006 - 08:56 am, by: Mike Triggs (Mikeandimah)

Antony Borlase wrote on Thursday, April 13, 2006 - 08:08 am:

Almost right- in Australia a meter is a guage which reads something. Lower case "m" stands for metre, correct, while upper case "M" is abbreviation for mega, millions, as in megalitres.

We use hectopascals at work- the abbreviation for which is hPa, since the basic unit is the pascal, "P" for short, capitalised as it's named after a person. Volts and amperes are the same.

Stuart Butler
Tinkerer
SA
TT

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Thursday, April 13, 2006 - 09:41 am, by: Stuart Butler (Stuartb)

I went to the servo at portland vic chasing the monster tuna, try filling your boat with 400 litres of fuel and see how much that hurts

Daniel Czechowski
DieHard
Western Australia
Soarer GT-T

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Thursday, April 13, 2006 - 10:39 am, by: Daniel Czechowski (Dan)

Adam Lonergan wrote on Thursday, April 13, 2006 - 07:55 am:
I figure I'd do a bit of an experiment for the greater good of me and the club. Looks like it has generated some knowledge and interest and even a little debate. I'm sure Dan has found it enlightening. I also don't get anywhere with a speed limit higher than 70 km/h in the 20 minutes to work each day so I think 3 gears is OK. It certainly got a good run in 4th from Neils to Melbourne.

Ok, experiment with this, with overdrive off, you're cruising steadily at 70 k's on third gear. Now press overdrive on, car will shift up, which means it should have been cruising on fourth gear ideally. You don't gain anything by doing that, it's only using up more petrol, and marginally more wear and tear in the engine due to higher revolutions, if that makes sense.
Personally, the only time I switch o/d off is when I'm cruising somewhere in the hills and I need the third gear for engine breaking if the hill decline is not too steep, and if using second gear is too much or too slow.

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