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Michael Sukahar
Tinkerer
Qld
TT
Posts: 15
Reg: 07-2005
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both in AUTO box
Apart from being never , is the single turbo vvti better than T.T. ? performance , handling etc.etc.
does anyone know ? |
Callum Finch
Goo Roo
WA
Soarer TT
Posts: 1314
Reg: 09-2005
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Short answer; TT will have more power than the vvti.
The only difference between the vvti and tt model Soarers was the engine afaik, so handling will be dependent on what suspension the car has; TEMS or no TEMS.
The vvti engine is much more efficient than the previous 1jz models which means less fuel consumption, thats the only benefit really.
Luke and i test drove a vvti Soarer once and it felt incredibly slow compared to a stock TT. |
Neil Griffiths
Trader
NSW
I have MORE Soarers than Hayden :-)
Posts: 2107
Reg: 07-2005
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VVT-i Has a few Advantages,
Apexi make an ECU for the Auto.
HKS do bolt on upgrades.
The car is Newer.
Has a few refinments made to it.
Can rev extremly well.
VVT-i has better low down Torque. |
Ryan Rankovic
DieHard
Victoria
Soarer TT GT-TL
Posts: 631
Reg: 07-2005
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the power is the same, but i thought the vvt-i had more torque? |
Cihan Aday
DieHard
Victoria
JZZ30
Posts: 918
Reg: 07-2005
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It does, it advances the inlet cam between 11 and who knows how many degrees at low revs for torque then retards it up top for outright power.
The higher compression also helps off boost.
Great tight feeling engine, dont know about mods though? As Neil said, HKS bolton's would be the way to go. |
Jose-Antonio Castillo
DieHard
NSW
Soarer VVTi
Posts: 710
Reg: 07-2005
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Stock for stock the later VVTi model feels like a quicker car. That's after owning both. |
Damian Ware
TryHard
Victoria
Camry
Posts: 117
Reg: 10-2005
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I would agree I have driven both, VVTi deffinetly seems more refined smother and faster.
If I could afford one I would have bought one instead. |
Marc Vipond
Tinkerer
Queensland
Soarer TT JZZ30
Posts: 70
Reg: 05-2006
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VVTi all the way I only wish one was up for sale (cheap) when I was looking  |
Ben Daniel
TryHard
WA
TT
Posts: 180
Reg: 03-2006
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I know the single VVT-i Turbo can hold more boost than the twins, haven't had the privilege of driving one tho. |
Callum Finch
Goo Roo
WA
Soarer TT
Posts: 1350
Reg: 09-2005
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Pfft, well every one just prove me wrong ;D |
Marc Vipond
Tinkerer
Queensland
Soarer TT JZZ30
Posts: 75
Reg: 05-2006
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LOL I dunno which is faster I just wish I had one to work with as my base! |
Jose-Antonio Castillo
DieHard
NSW
Soarer VVTi
Posts: 715
Reg: 07-2005
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Don't we all  |
Khan Islam
Tinkerer
VIC
UZZ31 V8 Limited
Posts: 61
Reg: 04-2006
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guys, What is the difference between a 2.5 TT and a 3 ltr non turbo straight 6 in terms of fuel efficiency and reliability? Thanks |
Callum Finch
Goo Roo
WA
Soarer TT
Posts: 1388
Reg: 09-2005
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KHAANNNN!!!!
Sorry, i could resist -.-
You prolly get that alot? =\ |
Nephtali Nani
Tinkerer
victoria
TT & V8
Posts: 78
Reg: 04-2006
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Khan Islam wrote on Wednesday, June 14, 2006 - 10:09 pm:guys, What is the difference between a 2.5 TT and a 3 ltr non turbo straight 6 in terms of fuel efficiency and reliability? Thanks
Both are great engines, if maintained 100% equally I think the 2JZ-GE found in the JZZ31's would last longer, the turbos would be the only thing to worry about on the TT's. |
Chris Davey
DieHard
QLD
Corona
Posts: 796
Reg: 07-2005
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At the drags the other week there were 2 mx83 cressidas with 1jz’s in them. One had vvti single and other had TT. The vvti one had pod, FMIC and 3” exhaust and stock boost. The TT had pod and 3” exhaust from y-pipe.
VVti ran 13.88@100, TT ran 14.08@100. The difference was the 60ft. To me that says that there is SFA difference between the 2 engines in terms of performance. |
Phil Gibson
DieHard
WA
'94 black/black UZZ31
Posts: 515
Reg: 07-2005
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Outright performance wise, yes however the vvti would have it all over the TT in terms of driveability - more torque and at half the rpm says that |
Chris Davey
DieHard
QLD
Corona
Posts: 798
Reg: 07-2005
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I am not a big fan of the vvti. Seems to just bring hassles with tuning. Many more ecu options for non vvti. Also, cams are a lot cheaper. No doubt it can work well but it just seems to make everything more complex than what it has to be.
Also, more torque down low could be to do with the fact that the single turbo can’t flow as much up top as the twin ct12a’s. From what I have seen the stock single is only good for around 220rwkw or so. With the twin setup being good for 250rwkw if pushed. |
Peter Burrett
TryHard
ACT
2.5 VVTi ST
Posts: 359
Reg: 07-2005
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Oh, how siloed we are.... the Single turbo VVTi is the top dog stock.... end of story... once tweaking is in the frame, who knows? |
Khan Islam
Tinkerer
VIC
UZZ31 V8 Limited
Posts: 62
Reg: 04-2006
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guys, i am actually thinking to trade in my 91 UZZ31 with a later model 96/97 2.5 VVti single turbo or 3 ltr vvti non turbo. No doubt i will miss the V8 power and comfort but trying to reduce the running cost  i guess 3 ltr non turbo would be much cheaper to run but what about the reliability. Is there any common issues i should be careful to buy a non turbo 3 ltr?
Thanks |
Neil Griffiths
Trader
NSW
I have MORE Soarers than Hayden :-)
Posts: 2169
Reg: 07-2005
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Khan,,I have a 98 VVT-i Turbo For Sale |
Don Bagnall
Moderator
New Zealand
I have LESS Soarers than Hayden :-(
Posts: 3846
Reg: 05-2005
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Khan,
The 3.0's are as bullet proof as you can get, but aren't massively much cheaper to run in city driving conditions, simply because you still have a heavy car to get moving, with roughly 40 less kw, but over ALL they will cost less.
And they are no slug, by any means.
I suggest you take a couple for a drive, and see what you think 
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Marc Vipond
Tinkerer
Queensland
Soarer TT JZZ30
Posts: 93
Reg: 05-2006
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Neil has driven all models so if you want an experts opinion he's your man. His 1998 VVti that is for sale at the moment is tight if you can afford that you'd be set |
Matthew Sharpe
Goo Roo
North Island
JZZ31
Posts: 1114
Reg: 10-2005
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Love my N/A 3.0. Yeah, its slower than the V8, but enough power for an every day driver. |
Khan Islam
Tinkerer
VIC
UZZ31 V8 Limited
Posts: 63
Reg: 04-2006
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Neil, can you post some photos plz? How much are you asking for it? |
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