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Jeff Bedsor
TryHard
QLD
TT
Posts: 249
Reg: 10-2006
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Ran an 11.99 last night, couldn't quite get to Daniels time. The track wasn't prepped well and was fairly slippery. I need a new set of MT's as well, they have no tread marks left. I have done a 1.67 60ft, but couldn't get under 1.8 last night. Next time.
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Maurice Diggler
Goo Roo
Victoria
TR44 HF
Posts: 1867
Reg: 06-2006
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Congrats mate, I love seeing threads like this, here is another good example of the MT's doing GREAT GREAT work.
If I were you I'd be getting my car on the dyno, tuned properly to the limit, start ripping some weight out of it (seats / spare wheel) and head back there, Daniels record is well within your grasp.
Good work. |
Blake Gloyn
TryHard
manawatu
soarer JZZ30 TT
Posts: 292
Reg: 02-2006
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oh my gosh this is AMAZING!!! great time. well done. bit jealous  |
Cihan Aday
Moderator
www.etuner.com.au
JZZ30
Posts: 2557
Reg: 07-2005
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Morgan, he's running a plug-in Emanage Ultimate with a power friendly map from myself
115.385 mph = Biggest i've personally seen in a Soarer with std turbo's and no NOS.
Too bad we're not tuning it completely Jeff. |
Jeff Bedsor
TryHard
QLD
TT
Posts: 250
Reg: 10-2006
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Cihan - Not wrong, again apologies for not getting to brisbane. I ran the 1.05 tune first with the exhaust cam at 5 degrees retarded and the intake at 0, I could only get a 12.3 and 2.0 sec 60 ft. Then advanced the intake cam 2 degrees and got a 12.1 and 1.8 60 ft. Went back to the 1.03 tune and did a 11.99.
It's still got more in it as it is running way to rich (50 litres for 250km on the road). |
Cihan Aday
Moderator
www.etuner.com.au
JZZ30
Posts: 2558
Reg: 07-2005
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No probs, i've sent you a tune to take care of the 440cc injectors somewhat.
Get me a log with the new map so i can check everything out.
BTW are you running dumps off the std turbos? |
Aaron Casey
DieHard
nsw
'94 jzz30 gttl, 2 mini's one supercharged 
Posts: 633
Reg: 08-2005
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hey jeff i see you also have a predator intercooler kit how are you finding yours? i havent done much driving with mine yet as ive been doing alot of fixing and waiting on parts lol
congrats on the time hopefully when you get it sorted out you will get nice and deep into the 11's |
Shane McInnes
Goo Roo
NSW
JZZ30 GT-TL Manual
Posts: 1294
Reg: 07-2005
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woohoo now we really have a State Of Origin on our Hands hahaha Daniel Clarke (NSW) vs Jeff Bedsor (QLD)
Cant wait to see what Daniel Clarke runs once he goes down the 1/4mile with his new EMB.
Cant wait to see what you run Jeff with some new MT's
Its gonna be very close times i think. Its very Impressive times for Standard Turbos.
Congrats Jeff, Awesome time mate. |
Jeff Bedsor
TryHard
QLD
TT
Posts: 251
Reg: 10-2006
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Cihan Aday wrote on Saturday, May 24, 2008 - 12:24 pm:No probs, i've sent you a tune to take care of the 440cc injectors somewhat
Thanks for that Cihan,I would love to see what results you could get from a real tune on a dyno. If I can run this from a generic tune, the mind boggles. A shameless plug for Cihan I know but you have helped me out a lot with tunes and put up with the endless "what's best" questions. Guys make sure if you make use of Cihan's knowledge and tunes from the net that you pay something for that service. After talking with Cihan on the phone today and finding out that he is doing a double degree and helping out and tuning our cars in his "spare time" I am doubly impressed. Ask for his account details and sling him some money now and again, otherwise we might find ourselves a losing an invaluable asset to the Soarer community.
Aaron - the Predator is great, at the drags last night you couldn't touch the radiator but the intercooler was cool to the touch ob "both" sides. I actually had to run the car for a while before runs to get the engine up to operating temp.
I think with a tune and some new rubber and maybe a 3200 stally I can get down another .2 - .3 sec, but I think that's going to be pushing it. |
Jeff Bedsor
TryHard
QLD
TT
Posts: 252
Reg: 10-2006
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Some vids from last night. I wasn't trying to get of the line quickly, just trying to stall it up as much as possible. Still hammered the guy in the 6 litre SS ute, went passed him about half track both times. He had drag radials on and about 280kw.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PA82PwB5Ecw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBpN7cfvHCQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKLYVZ4-Wsk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DrFrOfInUfM |
Rob Rojo
TryHard
NSW
Soarer TT
Posts: 363
Reg: 12-2007
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Have you got a shift Kit & LSD? |
Gavin Ryan
TryHard
W.A
Tourer V tt
Posts: 158
Reg: 12-2005
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Fark that is an amazing time! |
Daniel Clarke
Goo Roo
NSW
TT 2.5L 6 cylinder
Posts: 3507
Reg: 03-2006
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Congrats Jeff WOnt be long until you break the magic numbers!
Good luck for next time. |
Cihan Aday
Moderator
www.etuner.com.au
JZZ30
Posts: 2560
Reg: 07-2005
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Daniel, you're only getting faster to mate. With the EMB in and tuned, 250rwkw+ is possible on pump fuel as seen with Morgans car (258rwkw @ 18-20psi) and Sami's car (250rwkw @ 20psi).
Thanks Jeff, i think some more intake advance and some weight loss is worth a couple of tenths to you mate
Get those dyno graphs going and i'll make adjustments where necessary.
Lets see how low we can get without using giggle gas..
Daniel Clarke - 11.84 @ 114.9mph
Jeff Bedsor - 11.99 @ 115.4mph |
Jeff Bedsor
TryHard
QLD
TT
Posts: 253
Reg: 10-2006
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Rob - Yes I have a Torsen LSD and an MV 1.5 shift kit.
Daniel - Thanks for that, it will be interesting to see how far we can go. Hopefully my turbos hold out, I was running about 22 psi to get the 11.99.
Cihan - How much can you go with the intake advance? Talking to some of the racers at the drags, they reckon I should go for a bigger stall, which should help to get the 60 ft down to 1.5 or 1.6. I'm struggling to get 3200rpm at the moment, it starts to push me over the line. |
Daniel Clarke
Goo Roo
NSW
TT 2.5L 6 cylinder
Posts: 3508
Reg: 03-2006
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22psi.. Wow 3200rpm should be heaps to get a decent 60'... I wouldnt go anymore than a 3000rpm.. You will find this will possibly see up to 3800-4000 on the stall...
2800rpm should be enough in my opinion. This will get up to 3500rpm, which will be heaps
Any chance you could send me some pics of the Bonnet mods you have made? |
Rob Rojo
TryHard
NSW
Soarer TT
Posts: 364
Reg: 12-2007
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Great result!
22psi, How much can the standard turbos handle? |
Jeff Bedsor
TryHard
QLD
TT
Posts: 255
Reg: 10-2006
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Daniel - I will take some and get them up tomorrow, I think the scoop looks good on it.
Rob - I'll let you know when it blows |
Charlie Ters
TryHard
nsw
TT gone single
Posts: 297
Reg: 01-2007
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wow thats some crazy times you have there
WOOT another 11 sec car, and another V8 bites the dust 
(i never found WSID special) but geez, that track looks like someones backyard  |
Cihan Aday
Moderator
www.etuner.com.au
JZZ30
Posts: 2562
Reg: 07-2005
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You'll find its spiking to 22psi in the midrange and dropping off to 20 or less in the top end. I found over ~5500rpm and over 17-18psi there is no more than 2-3kw more atw pushing 21-22psi. At around 4000rpm up to 25psi makes a difference. IMO set the gains higher and let it taper back down to 19psi.
I will warn ya'll, they aren't going to last long at 20psi/250rwkw.
Best off dial the intake cam in 4-5degrees advance, retard exhaust 0-1 degree Jeff.
Std cams retard exhaust -5 to -6 degrees. |
Jeff Bedsor
TryHard
QLD
TT
Posts: 256
Reg: 10-2006
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Charlie Ters wrote on Sunday, May 25, 2008 - 08:52 pm:(i never found WSID special) but geez, that track looks like someones backyard
I would be great to get on a decent track, would have to be worth another .2 sec. Heres a couple of pics to show you what we have to put up with.
Surface of the burnout area, no wonder my MT's get chewed up.
There are some major bumps in the slow down area of lane 2, just to make things interesting.
Cihan - I will give that a go on the weekend, can't wait for the next meet, unfortunately it's another month away. |
Chris Davey
Goo Roo
QLD
Corona
Posts: 1573
Reg: 07-2005
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Top work Jeff! Especially on that track!
Just to let you know, you are the 17th quickest 1jz powered car in Australia. Awesome! |
Jeff Bedsor
TryHard
QLD
TT
Posts: 257
Reg: 10-2006
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Where's the list kept? |
Chris Davey
Goo Roo
QLD
Corona
Posts: 1575
Reg: 07-2005
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All the discussions are generally at www.toymods.net but I have copied it here as well. Here is the link.
https://soarercentral.com/sc-forum/messages/287/2095.html?1211775115 |
Christian Molenda
DieHard
QLD
T
Posts: 696
Reg: 07-2005
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hmm willowbank is uphill for the first 250meters, that track looks like a big downhill.
honestly i think you will get better times there than willowbank if traction is not an issue |
Luke Nieuwhof
Goo Roo
WA
Soarer TT
Posts: 2725
Reg: 07-2005
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Christian, Willowbank is downhill very much in the last part of the track, and if it is uphill for the first part (I'm not sure that is correct) it definitely isn't much.
Traction would probably be better at Willowbank and would make far more difference than any apparent rise. |
Jeff Bedsor
TryHard
QLD
TT
Posts: 260
Reg: 10-2006
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Daniel Clarke wrote on Sunday, May 25, 2008 - 05:50 pm:Any chance you could send me some pics of the Bonnet mods you have made?
Daniel, pics are on link below.
https://soarercentral.com/sc-forum/messages/283/250477.html?1211849544 |
Maurice Diggler
Goo Roo
Victoria
TR44 HF
Posts: 1873
Reg: 06-2006
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I always said WSID was downhill and everyone told me to get my eyes checked!
I TOLD YA'S! |
Rob Rojo
TryHard
NSW
Soarer TT
Posts: 377
Reg: 12-2007
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Where does it say WSID is downhill? I always thought it was slightly up hill. |
Mustafa Akgul
Goo Roo
NSW
ToyoPartsMan
Posts: 1877
Reg: 07-2005
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wsid is 3 degrees downhill it is within regulations just like most tracks. |
Daniel Clarke
Goo Roo
NSW
TT 2.5L 6 cylinder
Posts: 3524
Reg: 03-2006
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Hahaha 3 degrees is probably the pitch of the actual earths edge,lol. |
Luke Nieuwhof
Goo Roo
WA
Soarer TT
Posts: 2726
Reg: 07-2005
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Hehe not quite Daniel! But if you stand at the end of WSID, same with Kwinana, you are actually three metres lower than the start line, the tracks are designed that way |
Maurice Diggler
Goo Roo
Victoria
TR44 HF
Posts: 1876
Reg: 06-2006
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WOO! 3 metres, I told you my eyes aren't that bad you mofos |
Jeff Bedsor
TryHard
QLD
TT
Posts: 319
Reg: 10-2006
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Ran an 11.94 and a 11.98 Saturday night, I can't believe how hard it is to go .05 sec faster. Your safe for another month Daniel  . I'll get it with some more weight reduction and a few other bits. |
Chris Davey
Goo Roo
QLD
Corona
Posts: 1581
Reg: 07-2005
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mph and 60ft on the 11.94? good stuff mate |
Daniel Clarke
Goo Roo
NSW
TT 2.5L 6 cylinder
Posts: 3661
Reg: 03-2006
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Congrats mate! Yes it is alot harder JUST to go 0.05 isnt it! SO many people have no idea once your down here, how hard it can be!
Yeah, whats your 60' and mph like on those runs Jeff? |
Jeff Bedsor
TryHard
QLD
TT
Posts: 320
Reg: 10-2006
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11.941 60ft 1.762 at 115.385
11.982 60ft 1.760 at 114.504
12.000 60ft 1.799 at 114.796
Should be able to get a better 60ft than those above, just need to put it all together on the same run. Is the capitals having a go at me or others? I always knew it wasn't easy, but I'm working my way down each time, it's just a bugger we have to wait a month or more between meets up here. Daniel, what pressure do you run your MT's at, a mate with an 11 sec Torana talked me into dropping them to 14psi and then check them before each run. It did make a difference in the 60 ft's. |
Daniel Clarke
Goo Roo
NSW
TT 2.5L 6 cylinder
Posts: 3662
Reg: 03-2006
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Having a go at others champ MT's depends on the track , I start at 18psi and drop them as i go. |
Jeff Bedsor
TryHard
QLD
TT
Posts: 321
Reg: 10-2006
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No worries mate, it's a bit hard to read what's meant with some things. Bloody internet.
I ran in the Super Street comp on Sat night as well, didn't win a race as I was just trying to go as fast as I could. Had lots of fun though, being the only jap car in SS is a bit daunting, but the V8 boys are great, very helpful as well. At least till I start beating them. |
Chris Davey
Goo Roo
QLD
Corona
Posts: 1582
Reg: 07-2005
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that 60ft is pretty bloody good actually!
Interesting that Daniel's 60ft is .12 quicker than yours Jeff yet you are only .05 behind him with basically the same trap speeds. Seems the double the ET drop in 60ft doesn't apply when comparing between cars some time.
If it holds true, your ET could be around 11.70@115mph with a 1.64 60ft like Daniel.
That would be bloody incredible! |
Chris Davey
Goo Roo
QLD
Corona
Posts: 1583
Reg: 07-2005
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super street is so competitive! I am going to switch to modified bike which is entry level bike class as there is a heap better chance of winning some events Sorry...off topic. |
Luke Nieuwhof
Goo Roo
WA
Soarer TT
Posts: 2748
Reg: 07-2005
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Chris Davey wrote on Monday, June 30, 2008 - 07:04 pm:super street is so competitive! I am going to switch to modified bike which is entry level bike class as there is a heap better chance of winning some events Sorry...off topic.
Hehe it's all about experience Chris! I made second and third round respectively in my first two events in SS last season.
Know the tree, know your opponents |
Chris Davey
Goo Roo
QLD
Corona
Posts: 1584
Reg: 07-2005
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looking at winters results, the top SS guys are always like .02 off the dial in. bikes were closer to .10 generally. Plus as their is no lower ET cutoff there are some seriously quick bikes and only have to run 11.99 to make the field. sorry...way off topic |
Jeff Bedsor
TryHard
QLD
TT
Posts: 322
Reg: 10-2006
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My mate John was in the SS final, he lost by .038sec. It is unbelievable how close some of the experienced guys can run to their nominated ET.
The first race I dialed in a 11.9 and ran a 12.00, the other guy ran a 11.23 on a 11.1 dialin so I was closer. Trouble was he did a .43 reaction time to my .73 and to really top it off he came past me a hundred metres from the finish and backed off, then still won.
I still have a bit to learn. great fun though. |
Daniel Clarke
Goo Roo
NSW
TT 2.5L 6 cylinder
Posts: 3667
Reg: 03-2006
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You will find alot of SS guys cars can run high 10's.. SO they generally " sand bag " it near the finish line to stay within their nominated times!
If your dead serious... WInd the boost right back! Run 12.7-12.8's and let them do the chasing! Making them wait on the start line for that extra second causes breakouts Then the pressure is really on them! Run less boost, and dont stall it up! Just mash the throttle to cut good lights, as good lights and consistent times win races, Not breaking PB's every time . ( i know its a hard choice) |
Luke Nieuwhof
Goo Roo
WA
Soarer TT
Posts: 2750
Reg: 07-2005
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.73 John!!!! Eek!!!! Are you still on a .400 tree there?
Gotta be within a tenth of that green light, that's just practice. |
Jeff Bedsor
TryHard
QLD
TT
Posts: 325
Reg: 10-2006
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Luke - yes we are, the mate in the Torana, can pull a .4-.5 reaction time every go, I need lots more practice. I am having trouble getting a decent stall speed without pushing it over the line. Just treating this year as a learning experience. |
Luke Nieuwhof
Goo Roo
WA
Soarer TT
Posts: 2753
Reg: 07-2005
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Yep that's what I have found too Jeff, your best runs will come on the ones where it is creeping off the line.
BRAG AHEAD
Out of five eliminations runs in Super Street my slowest RT was a .04 hehe. |
George Funa
TryHard
NSW
Soarer TT
Posts: 179
Reg: 05-2006
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Top effort Jeff and great driving. . The times you are running are sensational.
Just came back back from the state of origin.... |
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